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Age Old Question About Grading Companies

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 Posted 10/30/2023  5:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pilotaggie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am looking to get a few recent modern gold coins and figured I would buy graded ones while I am at it. Normally I don't buy graded unless it is specific coins I am looking for. When I do it is usually PCGS.

I'm curious what the pro/con for you is on modern gold? Would you take one company over the other? Only looking at NGC and PCGS.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion grading older classic coins is a good thing, modern coins not so much. Grading/slabbing moderns like silver and gold eagles is very popular, some like to collect certain labels. I mostly prefer them raw. I don't have a preference between major graders PCGS, NGC etc. I avoid the little known ones. As the phrase goes buy the coin not the slab.

If you use the search line here on CCF and your browser you'll find conversations about it. Have fun!
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 Posted 10/30/2023  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't waste your time grading modern coins, especially bullion.
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 Posted 10/31/2023  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with NumismaticsFTW above, to not spend money having raw modern bullion graded, hoping for MS70 or PR70 results. Instead, buy them already graded.

My sense is if you're ok with 69's, you can buy them for very little over spot. If you want 70's they'll cost a bit more, but for many, not a lot more.

FYI, in the current weekly auction at David Lawrence Rare Coins ending this Sunday, for the $50 1 oz. Gold American Eagles and Gold Buffalo's, they have every year available, with no reserve, no Buyers Fee/Premium, and free shipping. They each started at $1, but now are each bid at around spot. Virtually all are MS70, with only a very few at MS69. Whenever "First Strike" labels were made, each of these have them! Full disclosure - my brother-in-law is the consignor of nine of the 57 or so lots.

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My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
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 Posted 10/31/2023  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pilotaggie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I phrased that poorly I'm going to buy some already graded coins. Figure I'll pick up the 2008 buffalo set but that isn't coming through my LCS anytime soon. Some other similar type pieces. I prefer them graded just so I have a little more trust when buying online. I'm not sending anything in. I do generally agree with you not a lot of point in graded new stuff.
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 Posted 10/31/2023  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to p.m. an email to you, but could not succeed.

This is NOT one of my brother-in-laws nine lots, but the current bid for this 2008 First Strike PCGS MS70 1 oz. Buffalo is currently only $2026.

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Here's a hotlink:

https://www.davidlawrence.com/auctions/lot/760745
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My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
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 Posted 10/31/2023  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pilotaggie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you! Not sure why you couldn't message me I'll have to check it out.
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 Posted 10/31/2023  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It said that your setting does not allow for emails.

Go to "Tools" near the top of this page, then "Manage Your Profile". Once you log in, the second item asks if you want to allow members to email you.

Steve

By the way, virtually all of the other MS70 1 oz. Gold Buffalo's and Eagles are currently bid at around $2,000 or $2,100 or so.
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!

My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
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 Posted 10/31/2023  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have heard that it is much more profitable to buy sorted gold coins than silver ones. The overpayment is not that big. If your goal is to save money, then just go to the bank or place an order online, but if you look at it as a savings, I think that a sorted coin will cost more.
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