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1800 $1 Draped Bust Dollar BB-187 B-16

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Picked this up recently. Thoughts? Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/03/2023  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say VF.
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 Posted 11/04/2023  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Strong VF-35, with XF-40 very possible. Great surfaces, very attractive example!
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Going with EF40 due to overall eye appeal.
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Thanks for your comments. The feature that really grabbed me was that the obverse stars are so well struck up. Hardly ever see that in mid-grade coins.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I'm going to push this one to XF40 due to eye appeal. the strike on LIBERTY., date and especially the star is quite nice
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The center is a little soft but the outer edges have an AU look. Conservatively, EF-45.
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 Posted 11/08/2023  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one looked undergraded. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

1800-$1-Draped-Bust-Dollar-BB-187-B-16
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I agree that it is undergraded. Very nice early dollar.
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 Posted 11/08/2023  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, VF-20, seems very much under graded. It would be fun to see a crack out and resubmit. Seems like it could only go up.
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I didn't post a guess but was at xf-40 / xf-45. One of the nicer draped dollars ive seen...
I feel vf-20 is crazy.
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Wow pretty nice coin there
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this proves my point that none of the grading services can determine strike from wear. especially in this series. thats ridiculous. this is a solid XF coin all day. the problem is if you resub it they still wont know how to grade it
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