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Valued Member
Canada
62 Posts |
Hello everyone, What would you grade this Trade dollar? Does it seem cleaned? Thanks very much!   Edited by Bose357
11/04/2023 2:28 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
ms62 - the spot above the eagle's wing is distracting.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
73844 Posts |
I'll say AU.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
It doesn't look cleaned to me, but it may get the 'details-stained' designation.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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 United States
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How about if we ask the moderators to merge your two threads on this same coin together. Best to keep all of the discussion in one place.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1694 Posts |
It's hard to get a feel for the surfaces but I'm thinking Au-58 details cleaned
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19129 Posts |
Higher-end AU. Would love to see it in-hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36678 Posts |
Looks AU-55 to me. Possibly cleaned at some point.
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Valued Member
 Canada
62 Posts |
Wow, thanks for the replies! This coin was certified by ICCS in Canada and was given a grade of EF-40. I'm happy to see that I am not the only one who thinks that's off. Might have to send this coin to PCGS.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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PCGS is going to be much tougher on the coin. i'd call it AU55 based on the reverse. not sure PCGS would grade it straight though
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
AU50 details, cleaned
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Valued Member
Canada
62 Posts |
I am wondering, why would this coin have an original grade of XF-40 from ICCS? I think that it it because there is worn detail on the cap of Liberty. Other than that, I do not see any other wear in the high points. If I were to send this to PCGS, do you think they would grade it the same? Here's a closer look at the cap:  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree AU given the closeup, unsure if cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3848 Posts |
AU Cleaned. ICCS could have graded it lower because I believe world graders are more conservative than US grading services.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4468 Posts |
This coin at XF45 would be acceptable. There is no luster showing through on the fields, and the only luster is showing in the protected areas on the reverse. The eagle's wings and breast are showing XF type of wear. I could also see a downgrade because of the large black area above the eagle's wing. The area around the date would also be a concern for a cleaning as there is a difference in color to the left and right of the date.
I would not spend the money on trying to get this common date an upgrade to AU at PCGS as there is not enough upside.
Edited by Slider23
11/21/2023 8:48 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
62 Posts |
Thanks for the input everyone. I guess in hand, the coin looks different; the staining on the reverse is not as strong.   Edited by Bose357
11/21/2023 8:55 pm
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