Thanks @panz I don't say that in each post but maybe I should.
I saw some cleaned and culled coins for sale in two LCSs this summer and have always paid less for them in Italy than I would if bought similar coins in the u.s.
Part of me likes finding these here just for the sake of finding them. And I will probably repatriate them at some point; I brought hundreds of pre 64 coins back to the u.s. this summer and that feels like a part of it for me....