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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These are images provided by the seller. Based on what they can provide, can you venture a grade? High EF/Low AU in my rookie guess. I own it now. I will send in hand images after delivery. Thanks for looking in advance.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Too much glare to see surface details and color accurately.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
877 Posts |
Thanks frog. I'll come back after it gets here.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6533 Posts |
The glare makes it tough to tell if that is just spotty toning on the fields, or light pitting. I would hazard a guess at 25-30, but I have zero experience grading trimes. Is there some kind of die clash to the right of the shield, and also behind the III?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2955 Posts |
Looks like an 1856 to my eyes  That is for sure a die clash and does look to me at least an XF-40 or so...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5673 Posts |
Better photos definitely needed. There's enough visible wear that I'd say high VF at best, and the surfaces might be cleaned. There's a clash behind the III, but perhaps scratches or graffiti to the right of the shield?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
The current pics seem to reveal a plugged hole at 3 o'clock.
Silver trimes were often used in jewelry.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The current pics seem to reveal a plugged hole at 3 o'clock. That's a superimposed arrow on the photo. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6533 Posts |
I think the vertical "graffiti" to the right of the III might actually be the upside-down vertical bars on the shield. Maybe not, though.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
74454 Posts |
Better pictures will be needed to tell for sure.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4233 Posts |
I would not have bought a coin based on those images, at any price.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2281 Posts |
Not only was their no trimes in 1953, this is an 1856.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not only was their no trimes in 1953, this is an 1856. I'm sure there was trimes in 1953. In fact, I'm pretty sure this one was around somewhere in 1953.  AU53 is my grade for this one based on visible wear and uneven strike. No opinion on the surfaces nor originality as the seller's pics are overexposed. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
10/09/2023 02:55 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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we need better photos to narrow down a grade and originality. the diamond and spheres are a key in determining grade but I need to see them in more focus and less glare. there appears to be possible grafitti on the right side of the shield "A" and the surfaces are suspect as well as being tampered with. without better photos i'll call it AU details
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The seller cranked up he brightness for a reason. You can assume this one was cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would not have bought a coin based on those images, at any price. I hear you <b>kbbpll.</b> But I pulled the trigger anyways.I am willing to throw the dice now and again. Here are some in hand images. I tried the best I could to replicate what I see. Any suggestions for improvement are welcome. My untrained eye sees no evidence of abrasive cleani thruoghout the fields. Dipped perhaps. There are some distracting obverse scratches east of the shield not noticed before. Concerning the reverse. The horizontal clash of the obverse shield looks obvious to me here but the vertical anomalies are perplexing as they cross the horizontal. Also some distracting scratches at about 3k eminating from the last I up and turning down towards the star near the rim. Based on coin in hand evaluation, I will venture AU50 Details.Close, or no cigar? .   |
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Posted 10/08/2023 6:09 pm
