Need Help Id'ing This Possible Crusader Coin

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joewobblie Valued Member United States 238 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 10:32 am This piece is 25mm at its widest and weighs .147 ounces (4.19 grams). It is shaped like a shallow bowl. I think it is gold. Any ID suggestions appreciated! Thanks in advance. Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34398 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 12:00 pm @joe, that looks like a Byzantine Hyperion to me. It might be mid-14th Century, like this one: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4908228 "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
joewobblie Valued Member United States 238 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 7:34 pm Thanks much Spence! Very similar but there are differences. I found what I think it is the same one (with the info you sent) on Numista. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces287016.html On the obverse there is a letter K. On the Numita one there are three dots over the K. On mine there is a star over the K. With star. With dots. The scale of the images appears different as well. Any thoughts on what the star may mean? Report this Post to the Staff
Valecrucis Valued Member United Kingdom 435 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 7:54 pm Yours looks like this one https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11554696 "ANDRONICUS II PALAEOLOGUS with MICHAEL IX (1282-1328). GOLD Hyperpyron. Constantinople. Obv: Bust of the Virgin orans within city walls with four groups of towers; sigla: (star/K) \| (star/N). Rev: Andronicus and Michael kneeling to left and right of Christ standing facing and crowning both of them. Sear 2396; PCPC 128, sigla 186" Regards, Derek Report this Post to the Staff
joewobblie Valued Member United States 238 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 8:47 pm Thanks Derek/Valecrucis - I think you got it. The site you and Spence used is new to me. Are you using the image search? Report this Post to the Staff
Valecrucis Valued Member United Kingdom 435 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 8:58 pm No, I'm not even sure what that image search function is. On my mobile the link doesn't seem to show anything usable Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4964 Posts	Posted 11/20/2023 9:51 pm She looks great and those city wall above her are real sharp! What a cool coin! Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34398 Posts	Posted 11/21/2023 03:09 am Quote: Are you using the image search? No, not me either. Acsearch is one of my go-to websites for this sort of thing. My keyword search was just the denomination (Hyperpyron). "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
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