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Recently there have been a few 1944-D questions where the answer was a master die issue. Lots of coins from this date show doubled tips of the 4's and serifs but are not doubled dies. So here is an actual doubled die on one of these, DDO-002. It is a class V with clockwise rotation. So not just one of the class VI dies with fat letters toward the rim, but actual notches and separation lines. I am showing the date without any graffiti, and then an image with a lot of scribbles and arrows. Not trying to confuse anyone, but help to clarify what exactly it is that defines a doubled die and how to see it. Once you get it, a die like this will just jump out at you as a DDO and not just the master die doubling. 1944-D Lincoln Wheat cent - DDO-002   |
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Nice DDO. Thank you for the education.  Errers and Varietys.
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The coin you are showing is a higher MS coin. What do you look for on a circulated coin to tell the difference? John1  |
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Very nice! |
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Yes, that is a higher grade coin, as it is in a PCGS holder MS65RD. But this still isn't too hard on a circulated coin, as other than the separation lines most of it will show up. The shape of the 9 is a huge "tell" as it has a different shape. The tail is thicker and the upper left curve is thicker, while the upper right curve appears thinner. It will also kind of look like a pinch point right at the top. The other big one, which can be a big difficult if the coin shows a lot of flattening, is the size of the interior on the devices. The "hole" inside the 9 is much smaller on a DDO, and the same with the interior of the 4's. This is something that many really forget to look at when searching coins, as the inside of the devices being smaller is a very good reason to give a coin further attention. The last part is the notches, particularly in this case on the bottom left and top right of the 1. These show up as more or less angles, and are often visible on circulated coins. |
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Very nice and thank you very much for that.
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Thanks TB. Very helpful tutorial indeed!
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It occurs to me that I also have a VDDR-017 handy, which is similar but a class VI DDO. Tonight I will try to add an image of that date for comparison as well. |
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Add away! Everyone who follows this CCF discussion board should pretty much read that page. And here is the Wexler page with great info plus links to each doubled die type. https://doubleddie.com/58222.html |
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That sure is an odd looking DDO  |
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Alright, so here is the class VI VDDO-017. So for this die the design more or less looks like it was dragged/elongated toward the rim. The angles on the numbers are there, but even more pronounced than on DDO-002. Distortion of the last 4 is fairly extreme, and the fat vs thin parts of the 9 really start to be quite easy to spot. And since this is on the master doubling, the already split serifs are now drifting to at least 4 points and maybe more. Fun trying to diagnose these kinds of doubled dies as I'm not sure anyone yet really knows exactly what went on when they were made. 1944-D VDDO-017  |
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Well done and thanks for the additional image of the second DDO. All that extra doubling looks sweet. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Posted 12/18/2023 04:18 am
