Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Shop CCF Members on eBay! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1891-O Morgan Dollar Dies For Sale For At Home Counterfeiting - Totally Illegal

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 11 / Views: 837Next Topic  
Bedrock of the Community
numismatic student's Avatar
United States
11880 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  5:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looks like you can buy dies to produce your own 1891-O Morgan dollars at home, not just counterfeit copies.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...9007013.html
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
Bedrock of the Community
numismatic student's Avatar
United States
11880 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should we alert authorities and how to best do that?

1891-O-Morgan-Dollar-Dies-For-Sale-For-At-Home-Counterfeiting---Totally-Illegal
1891-O-Morgan-Dollar-Dies-For-Sale-For-At-Home-Counterfeiting---Totally-Illegal
1891-O-Morgan-Dollar-Dies-For-Sale-For-At-Home-Counterfeiting---Totally-Illegal
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Link not working for me.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
HondoB's Avatar
United States
24884 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a link, but it's in Chinese:
https://ko.aliexpress.com/item/1005...JrFK3qnrJb3G
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Pillar of the Community
Bud250r's Avatar
United States
824 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bud250r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unbelievable. What will they sell next?
Moderator
Learn More...
John1's Avatar
United States
56855 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would never click on an ali link. Anything goes on ali.I bet there is nothing you can do or will be done.
John1
Bedrock of the Community
Errers and Varietys's Avatar
United States
73595 Posts
 Posted 12/19/2023  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jeez!
Errers and Varietys.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
HondoB's Avatar
United States
24884 Posts
 Posted 12/20/2023  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I bet there is nothing you can do or will be done.

John1, the government there (and those of many other countries) turn a blind eye to the counterfeit coin business - as long as they are for export.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Pillar of the Community
kbbpll's Avatar
United States
4233 Posts
 Posted 12/20/2023  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure if there's even anything illegal about owning or selling a coin die (unless it's the property of a mint). It's all about what you do with it.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187537 Posts
 Posted 12/20/2023  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I'm not sure if there's even anything illegal about owning or selling a coin die (unless it's the property of a mint). It's all about what you do with it.
Yes, I agree. They are operating right up against the line here.
Bedrock of the Community
IndianGoldEagle's Avatar
United States
36444 Posts
 Posted 12/20/2023  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The sad part is people are going to buy these.
Pillar of the Community
kbbpll's Avatar
United States
4233 Posts
 Posted 12/20/2023  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Expanding on my previous comment, I suppose in US law it depends on whether this qualifies as an "imitation numismatic item." Also, as the seller if you _know_ that you're selling it to someone who manufactures fake coins, it would violate the "substantial assistance" clause. That would probably be difficult to prove though.
Quote:
It shall be a violation of the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder for a person to provide substantial assistance or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller of imitation numismatic items, or to any manufacturer or importer of imitation political items, if that person knows or should have known that the manufacturer, importer, or seller is engaged in any practice that violates the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder.
  Previous TopicReplies: 11 / Views: 837Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to rattle this change. Forums