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1851 Large Cent Bid On But Not Won

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I got to $40 on this one the other day and would have gone higher given the coin condition except for the strange damage or planchet flaw? on obverse. Really liked the die lines on middle of reverse so wanted to snag it but oh well. Maybe someone can tell me about the obverse issue. https://www.ebay.com/itm/186170287755
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 Posted 11/28/2023  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whatever's going on in that area doesn't look good.

Also, did you notice the qulaification that "the item described doesn't necessarily pertain to the specific item being sold", or words to that effect?
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Adding a pic of the coin from the auction to save it for posterity:

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 Posted 11/28/2023  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 11/28/2023  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And this, apparently, may not be what you actually get!
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 Posted 11/28/2023  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're misinterpreting the description.
"Up For Bid 1851 US Braided Hair Large Cent 1C (INV LC)
Listing Note- (INV..) listed in the above description does not pertain to the specific item being sold. This is for inventory management purposes. Thank you. "

They're saying that "(INV LC)" is their inventory code and not a grade or description of the coin.
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 Posted 11/28/2023  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That area near the rim could be damage or a Lamination.
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 Posted 11/28/2023  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that's what I was unsure about. The denticles appear to be missing in that area too. The reverse was the most interesting to me part of the coin.
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What is going on with the reverse there?
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it was a die state A N-21 which Grellman says is rare. Coin itself is R-3+ but those many lines are something I have not seen before in years of looking at large cents.
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Wow those reverse die lines are crazy! Never seen that before either. I think the obverse defect is a planchet lamination. The same pink color can be seen across the entire left obverse.
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You might want to save a reverse pic for posterity as well, since that's creating a lot of commentary.

The lines in the central reverse remind me of die abrasion. https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Die+abrasion
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The die lines appear raised so it makes one wonder.
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Comforting that I'm not the only one that will buy a coin just for the interesting die state!
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Looks like a planchet issue but not a coin I would buy.
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Here's the reverse.
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