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Copper 1982 Small D Penny Prospect ?

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It is looking rather Zinc-ified from the latest reverse photo..
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Hi,I see pros and cons with it but he said it weighed 3.1 grams and has a return policy and a 100% rating so what the heck I bought it and can always send it back,it will cost me $5 bucks shipping it back for the "experiment" so I buy stuff like this ONLY if I can return stuff though.I spend $600 bucks on a coin and it got here and was not as advertised and I just sent it back,no cost to me but the return shipping,so I take chances on stuff like this,even if it's a complete scan and the seller disappears your credit-card fruad policy repays you,there no risk buying cool prospects really.
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 Posted 12/22/2023  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Complete scam I mean't not "scan",typo.
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That's the problem,I have bought probably twenty or more 82 small D and 83 prospects over the years with 3 gram weight claimed and 0 worked out so far but I never buy unless there is a return policy so it only costs me for shipping it back.

Hi,I see pros and cons with it but he said it weighed 3.1 grams and has a return policy and a 100% rating so what the heck I bought it and can always send it back,it will cost me $5 bucks shipping it back for the "experiment" so I buy stuff like this ONLY if I can return stuff though.I spend $600 bucks on a coin and it got here and was not as advertised and I just sent it back,no cost to me but the return shipping,so I take chances on stuff like this,even if it's a complete scan and the seller disappears your credit-card fruad policy repays you,there no risk buying cool prospects really.


Got it. Yes I see what you are trying to do - identify a ungraded coin as a error or variety and then take chance to buy. The issues are that 1) Many coins shown may not be the exact coin you get. Look for multiple quantities being sold, past sales of same coin etc and then contact seller to verify. 2) Any coin that a seller is smart enough to identify as a potential high value coin like that should not be selling it raw. There are only a few known to exist, and while more may exist out there, it might turn up with someone posting a 1982-d in a good condition but not mentioning the copper and selling for price of a nice 1982-d alone. The fact they even mention the 3.1g weight yet want to sell as a raw low cost? 3) There are too many frauds unfortunately. Think of someone posting a 'raw' 1943 copper cent is 99.9% likely to be a fraud vs someone just wanted to post up a potential real find that just didnt get graded. Maybe if it was a low value <$35 coin perhaps.

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 Posted 12/22/2023  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I agree 100% but not everyone is knowledgable with these transitional coins,there will be one put up someday though but do agree the ad having the weight with the coin is "fishy" but if theres a free return policy then there really is no risk,the next big one found will be found,64 clad,65 silver,82D or 83 penny will probably be found in the 99 cent bin your right,I just picked this up today for 2 bucks,advertised as a 1983 penny.I buy lots of these,no bubbles I can see so 2 bucks is no big deal,it will probably end up at the coffee shop when I spend it like they always do LOL.
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I buy lots of these, no bubbles I can see so 2 bucks is no big deal, it will probably end up at the coffee shop when I spend it like they always do LOL.


So it sorta like buying 'lottery tickets' for 2 dollars hoping for the big win..

The only big difference is with the lottery there will Always be a winner eventually, but with rare coin hunting - there is no guarantee of a big 'win'.

Well I wish you great luck..
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 Posted 12/23/2023  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes but unlike the lottery if you buy under the free return policy if you don't like what you get you get your money back less shipping it back,you could literally buy a $1 item or a $100K item,get it and not like it a send it back,you can't send back used lottery tickets.The stuff under 3-4 bucks is a gamble through your correct the shipping it back is more than the money you get back.
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The damage on the interior of the rims at K2 & K4 look like pitting on a zinc.

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Ya it's hard to tell in pictures on the websites,there are pictures of pre-1982 stuff that looks exactly the same and they have to be coppers,just buy em,get em here and have a look is all you can really do.
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Not to sound insulting but I'm not sure why you would waste your time and money on this. The seller claiming 3.11 grams means they _know_ about the 1982-D small date copper. Ask yourself why anybody in their right mind wouldn't have it certified and then submitted to a major auction house, instead of hawking it on whatever site you found it on. One of the two known sold on Heritage for $10800. It's like buying a lottery ticket from someone who already knows it's a losing ticket.
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Hi, no offence taken but it depends on the seller,I look and see who it is,if it a coin dealer yes I just move on,but so many people do get "grandpa's" coins or a coin lot at a garage sale,I buy stuff from sellers who don't have lots of coins up and all their items are like garage sale stuff with a few coins thrown in,these are not coin collectors and have really no idea what stuff is,somebody could put an ad up for a "1965 Quarter" and they have no idea what a 65 Silver is,they just know the holder says 65 Nickel,there was a seller I bought a coin album from that was actually living in her car and had her dads coins for sale,legit or stolen well who knows,I got the Nickel album for $55 dollars because it was advertised as "old Nickels",this one was under "1982 Lincoln" thats it,is it the real deal 99.999999999999% no but if you don't buy a lottery ticket you don't win the lottery is the way I go at it,it's kinda fun too waiting to see what comes.
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Post the text of the ad so that we have better information. Until then my conclusion remains - a seller posting the weight as 3.11g knows exactly what they're doing. They're just playing dumb. All I'm saying is don't be a sucker. If you've done this 20 times as you stated, you could have bought a $100 coin instead. But it's your money so whatever floats your boat.
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Come on man don't hastle me cause I buy a few coins I can return,have a good holiday,you do stuff your way(never buying therefore never finding anything) and I'll buy this stuff and have a slim chance of finding something rare I can sell to you LOL.
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Have fun looking and yes its possible that someones collection from grandpa or a nice one listed up as just a generic 1982-d cent without weight or error info listed with it might be a fun thing to grab to check. Noone is hassling you about that. Its just pointing out to probably avoid those sellers that are also listing the item as being 3.11g or mention the error as if they knew enough to weigh and list weight, and it could be that high value item, they should be attempting to authenticate it and then it will be worth a lot of money (unless they are listing weight for every cent but don't seem to know much about varieties or errors from their listings). Since there are only two and its unknown how many others even exist, its just one of the few bigfoots out there but not necessarily impossible. While your at is, maybe check out the info on other 1982/1983 cent varieties and errors and you can look for those at the same time.

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As stated in a few posts here already, "Whatever floats your Boat". Not hassling you. You came here first on your own accord, asking what this group of
seasoned coin collectors thought about your endeavors. YOU GOT OUR OPINIONS. Very good ones I think. Good Luck with whatever you choose to do.
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