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1972-P LMC WDDO-013 ?

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 Posted 01/04/2024  10:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canuckelhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's the second one. This one matches up pretty well including at least one marker, the gouge/dot north of the F in initials..if not I'm throwing in the towel. Lol.

Can you guys let me know if I got this one right.

Thanks.

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 Posted 01/04/2024  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.doubleddie.com/384301.html
Check out this link from Wexler's Guide.
1972-P has some very dramatic DDO's.
See what others here think.....
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 Posted 01/04/2024  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reivers_Jewels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with your assessment; the extra bar on the 2 shows nicely, and I see several of the die gouges on the reverse matching up. Another nice find!
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 Posted 01/04/2024  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Going by your pics looks like MD to me.
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 Posted 01/04/2024  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am only seeing Machine Doubling here.
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 Posted 01/04/2024  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are some fairly clear die markers for this one... if you think you have it, check for them and post some clear close ups of those specific markers.

I can't tell with pics provided.

From: https://www.doubleddie.com/384301.html:
1972 1¢ WDDO-013

Description: A strong CW spread shows remnants of an extra horizontal bar of the 2 in the date well above the normal horizontal bar. The variety shows the master die doubling known for this date on LIBERTY and IGWT.

Die Markers: Obverse: Several die scratches extend WNW from the rim below the right side of the bust with one of the stronger scratches being below the D and B of the designer's initials. Several die scratches extend ESE from the rim above IN and WE. Reverse: A small die gouge can be found to the right of the top of the 2nd A in AMERICA. A small die gouge (dot) can be found to the right of the base of the last Memorial column. A small die gouge (dot) can be found north of the F in the designer's initials. Two small die gouges can be found between the lower O and N of ONE.
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 Posted 01/04/2024  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with igwt79 and as stated its a tough one to call.
probably because of circulation issues but it is close.
Good Luck!
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The biggest problem with this situation, is that the listed coin is also showing strong MD and I think that is what everyone is looking at. You may have the doubling shown on the WDDO-013 but your area is hidden with verdigris. Below is a marked up pic of WDDO-013 to show what I'm talking about. Wexler has a blue arrow pointing at the doubling, it's out in the field, separate from the date and I've also circled it in red. All of the yellow arrows are pointing at Machine Doubling.


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 Posted 01/04/2024  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got to agree, not seeing it. All I see is md.
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 Posted 01/04/2024  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuckelhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not surprised, I debated as MD but thought I'd take shot.

@makescents is right it might still be there. I'm going to have another look with a better lighting setup. I'll let you guys know if I find anything.

Thanks for the responses!
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