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1915 Lincoln Wheat Cent

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Howdy!

Starting with closeups of my wheaties group shown at http://goccf.com/t/459046.

First is the 1915 which as said is probably the rarest in the group. Well it also looks it's the one in the worst conditions! Do you think the scratch marks (which seem pretty even!) are only on the patina? Obverse seems rusted?

Hope you enjoy and thank you in advance for any info on this oldie As always interesting in tips on conserving it!

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Looks like VF/EF sharpness but suffering some environmental discoloration. Perhaps an acetone soak would help.
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I'd say VF details with areas of corrosion. Looks like it might have been a woodie, but hard to tell now. Verdi-Care might help a bit with the verdigris on the reverse, but probably not the underlying corrosion.
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I'll say VF details. Pure acetone and Verdi-Care might help.
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agreed, start with a pure acetone soak over night. Do NOT use fingernail polish remover but rather 100% acetone you get from a hardware store.
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Problem is, the cost of these treatments far outweighs the potential value, which would unlikely exceed a dollar or so under the best of circumstances. As it stands, I wouldn't even pay 20 cents for it.
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Thanks all!

What do you think it's going on around "IN GOD". It almost look like rust but being copper... rusted gunk?


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it might have been a woodie

Well, I learned something new! I think several of the wheaties I'm going to post have this effect. I thought they were just cleaning marks.


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the cost of these treatments far outweighs the potential value

While I agree with the statement, I'm more interested in learning to clean as well as preserving the collection as is since it was put together by my family over more than 100 years.
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Coin looks to be VG/F at best and has been badly corroded, harshly cleaned and retoned. Conservation is somewhat pointless unless you do it for sentimental value.
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Coin looks to be VG/F at best and has been badly corroded, harshly cleaned and retoned. Conservation is somewhat pointless unless you do it for sentimental value.


Hello BadThad! Thanks for jumping in!

Are you inclined to think that the "woodie" effect is just cleaning strokes left behind?

Definitely sentimental value so I'll try conserve them the best I can! To this point I would love if you could share some pointers. I have been reading your istructions/guidance all over the web and so far, if I were to start cleaning it today, I would follow this script I drafted (very much still a WIP) based mainly on your messages: http://goccf.com/t/458018#3974492

Thanks and have a nice weekend y'all!
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After 108 years, I'd say keep it for sure, it has nice details. But trying to turn into something it is not, seems to be
a waste of time. IMHO.
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But trying to turn into something it is not, seems to be a waste of time. IMHO.


How am I trying to do that? Removing gunk which is just sitting there and making sure it reaches the next generation in the same shape without being further oxidised or eaten by verdigris is what conservation is all about, IMHO. Time spent preserving coins is time well spent in my book
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VF details, environmental damage. I doubt Acetone will help much, this looks like moisture damage.
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Thank you IndianGoldEagle!

I'm still a bit curious what those rust spots are, seen on the obverse. Isn't copper supposed to turn green when oxidising?

What do you think it's going on?

Thanks!
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