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1315-1317 (Type 13) King Edward II 1 Penny

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Thanks Paddy - great information as usual! I was wondering if Edward V would have any coins issued because of his 1 year reign, but have not yet started there yet. The rest of these coins may take another 40 years to collect..
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Since I see you're still looking for confirmation, I don;t know if this makes any difference, but I am seeing EDVR' at the beginning of the obverse legend, instead of EDWR' .
Maybe that's just a variant of one of the types already mentioned?

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Definitely a W. The W is two wedge punches with a broad base and a rounded-off inverted wedge in between pointed up; compare to the V in CIVI on the reverse, with a sharply pointed base and a hollow space between both diagonals.

The top of the left wedge punch in the W has been somewhat flattened by the rim damage in that area, but the bottom point of the wedge is clear and its leftmost diagonal is visible running up to the D in ED.

Another way to tell is to look at the spacing between ED and R and compare the size of that gap to the width of the V in CIVI.

As an aside, his name was originally spelled Eadweard in OE, and might have been pronounced something like AY-ad-vay-ard, with a very slight pause between each "e-a" and a slightly more breathy (open) final "d."

The "v" sound is preserved in the Scandinavian forms of his name (Edvard, e.g.)
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Ah, you're right. I was trying hard to see the leftmost part of the W and couldn't, and knew it couldn't be the style of W composed of two Vs which is seen on the later classes. But, you're right, the (partial) left wedge is visible at the base, and now that you point it out, I can imagine the top might have been there at one point, or there was some strike weakness on that part of the coin..

I was also looking at the extraordinarily thick "backs" of the E and G on this coin, which to me usually signals earlier rather than later.
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Thanks for that additional information. I'll get this coin out of the 2x2 and get more images of it if necessary.
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