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¼ Dollar 1854 "Seated Liberty Quarter" Transformed Into A Steamship Token.

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Good morning,
I am new to the forum and I am from Paris in France.
I am very happy to be here.
Would you have seen an idea about this transformed silver coin ?
It looks like gold.
He is signed up:
"Philadelphia
Aug 20 1881
STEAM SHIP INDIANA
RICHARD SMITH
August 7 1882"

THANKS !


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The SS Indiana traveled routes between the US and the UK from 1873 until 1897. Your coin is probably a souvenir made for a passenger on one of these voyages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Indiana_(1873)
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@ExoGuy would probably be interested to see this!
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Very cool piece!
The dates are 50 weeks apart..I wonder what the significance is ...there is a story there!
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Very cool, thanks for sharing!



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Great, thanks everyone !
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Cool item! It's a most artfully engraved love token, a personal memento that's unique. The engraving is expertly done; especially so, given the small canvas that a dime has to offer.

Perhaps, the engraver and/or a loved one once traveled on this steamer? Perhaps, 1854 was the engraver's or recipient's birth year? As is often the case with pieces like this, more questions surface than answers.

This piece offers great potential for research. In addition to the steamship subject, it cites an individual a location and two dates. By applying different search patterns, word combinations, one has a pretty fair chance of finding answers.

Steamship and other early transportation items in the realm of exonumia are quite popular. I'd estimate the worth of this piece at $100-$200. Good research results that add intriguing history would enhance the value, of course. As is the value rests in knowing the ship and the coin's aesthetic appeal.
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I found a Richard Smith listed in the manifest for the Indiana on August 7, 1882. Something neat is his occupation is listed as "Type Founder." He might be the same Richard Smith who was part of the Philadelphia Type Foundry. Mentioned here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawre...ype-founder)

In 1845, Johnson brought in three of his employees as junior partners: Thomas MacKellar, John F. Smith and Richard Smith. The business operated under the title of L. Johnson & Company, although it was commonly known as the "Johnson Type Foundry".[1][2][5] In 1856, a branch foundry was established in Cincinnati, under the management of Robert Allison, who later became its owner.[6]

And now I wonder if this is him too! The birth year is a little off, but that does not automatically rule him out b/c a ship manifest may not be exact. Though with a name like "Richard Smith" it may need some additional confirmation. By the occupations listed for the other passengers on his manifest page it would imply this was the First Class section. Again though- this is a guess :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith...al%20heroes.

In 1891, Richard Smith (1821-1894), a wealthy Philadelphia electroplate and type founder, wrote a will that provided $500,000 ($16.3 million today[1]) for a memorial arch to be adorned with portraits of Pennsylvania's Civil War military and naval heroes. Smith deposited the model and designs for the memorial with the Fidelity Insurance Trust and Safe Deposit Company and stipulated that: Fidelity president John B. Gest handle his request, that the architectural designs and construction be handled by Philadelphia architect James H. Windrim, and that the selection and supervision of sculptors for the specified portraits should be handled by the Fairmount Park Art Association (now the Association for Public Art).

Name Richard Smith
Sex Male
Age 55
Birth Year (Estimated) 1827
Birthplace United States
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1882
Event Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Affiliate Publication Number 108
Affiliate Publication Title Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving in Philadelphia, 1800-1882
Ship Name Indiana
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@ Brummagem .... Way to go! While the info is not exacting, it sure is enticing. Many a solution begins with bits and pieces of circumstantial evidence. If you don't already collect c/s's, you'd do well to consider doing so.
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