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1958-P Jefferson Full Step? You Vs. PCGS

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Gotta and get some opinions.
Grade and step opinions please. Your own and what you think PCGS said if different. FYI-long scratch on reverse is on holder.

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I'll ssy MS-63, no opinion on steps anymore!
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I really wish the TPG's would strictly follow their own criteria for the FS designation, especially when we are often talking substantial premiums in value. That said, I think that even Ray Charles would agree that this is not FS.
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Doesn't look FS to me
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MS-63 and does not look FS to me. But who knows what PCGS sees as FS now.
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I'm at MS63 and not a FS
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@Coinfrog: "no opinion on steps anymore!"

No kidding! Winning the lottery seems easier than guessing the FS designation anymore
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Me: MS-62 and not full steps.
PCGS: MS-65 FS.
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Me: MS-62 and not full steps.
PCGS: MS-65 FS.


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MS63 possible 64. step 5 is not complete. should not be FS but .

observation - to me it seems that they are looking at the step definition so long as the step is complete they are for the most part ignoring marks that disturb any of them. I guess we will see how they assessed this one. Probably blow my theory out of the water
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Well, I feel most of you got it correct. MS63 not full steps.

But, the @@s hat award goes to the at PCGS and they deserve all the emojis!!!







Brandmeister was the closest

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Complete idiocy, really.
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Just adopt a poker mindset. It makes much more sense when you stop playing the cards and start playing the player.
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Just adopt a poker mindset. It makes much more sense when you stop playing the cards and start playing the player.

I've got three cards in the hole I think I will send to NGC and take a chance. All three are rare in 5FS and if I can get one to hit...might be worth the gamble
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Well, at least PCGS shows the results in TrueView. Before taking any gamble, I would check the full steps nickels for that year, and see if the TPG is generous for that year. It seems to vary a lot. They seem to be pretty tough for certain years.
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That is a ridiculous FS designation by PCGS. Concur with the general opinions stated here that the wizards at PCGS simply do not follow their own guidelines for FS designation.

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