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General Question Regarding Standing Liberty Quarter Grading.

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When I look at the images in PCGS Photograde, I noticed that nearly all the shield stars are visible for the lower grades but not so in a couple of the higher grades. So my question basically is how many shield stars need to be visible for a grade of F12.
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The grading of SLQs cannot be boiled down to counting stars on shield. There are many factors in determining grade.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Have to agree there.
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So it could still grade F12 even if only half the stars are visible?
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Strike issues plague this series.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Different grading criteria established according to date. The 1916 and 1917 type 1 quarters are graded differently than those from 1917 type 2 thru 1924. And the 1925 thru 1930 are graded differently again.
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There is no way to generalize, especially in a grade as broad as Fine. We're happy to offer opinions on individual coins, but that's about it.
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i agree with the comments here and they really apply to all series. you cannot grade a coin just be one or two markers. it takes decades of looking at and grading coins to understand cleaning, strike and other issues that can affect grade and value. photograde can get in you the ballpark but thats about it. from there it takes a good eye and a knowledge base regarding that series. most new collectors don't take the time to gain that knowledge and end up overpaying for a coin time and time again. you came to the right place to increase that knowledge base. I suggest working on one series and learning how to grade these. you can increase the amount of time it takes to do that by searching for and reading comments associated with that series. you have hundreds of years experience here to tap into. ask questions, post coins for assessment and see how you do and I suggest doing that prior to pulling the trigger on anything of value.
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You need to look at thousands of coins to get comfortable at grading.

Photos and videos online can only do so much.

Befriend your LCS and look at as many coins as you can.
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