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Valued Member
United States
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I have purchased several rainbow toned Morgan dollars in the last couple of weeks, but most of them are not graded. I am still very new at this. This one was listed as "uncirculated" so I assume it would be an MS grade of some type if the listing was accurate? Any thoughts on a grade for this coin? Paid around $300. Good deal or bad?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Learn how to grade before you take a crapshoot on raw coins.
I have this at AU-53 Details Cleaned. Not worth half of what you paid in my opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like artificial toning to me
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU Details harshly cleaned and artificially toned is my take on this one.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11896 Posts |
A cleaned, scratched AU coin. Agree, worth less than half what you paid but you would have difficulty finding a buyer. I would return it if you are able.
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United States
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AU details-harshly cleaned. Artificial toning to try to cover the horrible attempt at cleaning. You are better off buying slabbed certified coins instead of throwing your money away on junk like this. Please try to return it if you are able.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nasty cleaned and AT'd coin.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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first, I would never buy a toned coin like this unless I was very well schooled on AT. second, know your years for morgans especially the New Orleans coins. the 89(O) are known for weak strikes. you can see this weakness around the ear and the eagle breast probably strike related. next, when you have a heavier toned coin you have no idea whats under that toning. you are playing roulette guessing a grade for these. lastly, this coin was cleaned and then AT afterwards to cover it up. look at the fields on both sides. they have been harshly cleaned with something. these stand out like a sore thumb
there is some minor circulation wear on the wheat tips, cotton balls, ears, tips of the wings and probably more areas covered up by toning. its an expensive lesson. hopefully you will be more cautious going forward. I would suggest posting them here for assessment before pulling the trigger
AU details (cleaned)
if you still have a return privilege I would send it back ASAP
even if the coin graded straight I would put it at AU58 with a value about $250. as a details coin and they way it was cleaned, I'm not even sure it would retail at half that. good luck and I hope you can get your $$ back
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU details, harshly cleaned, artificial tone.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Agree with IGE and the others. Cleaned/AT
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you everyone! I can send it back and I will!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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gschmidtjd. good to hear that you can return this one.
here is one way to hone you grading skills.
• look at the posts here
• do not read the comments
• compare the coin to PCGS photograde to help get into the ballpark for a grade
• assess the surfaces of the coin looking for marks, scuffs abrasions, breaks in luster, damage and circulation wear, does anything not look right with the coin?
• make your assessment based on these
• read the comments and see how you did
• some folks just throw out a grade that is inconsistent with the majority so look for common assessments and see how you did looking at those ones
• add any differences to your knowledge base
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