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They may claim that the reason for the details grade is due to the scratch above the eagle on the reverse but I am assuming the real reason is because of an old harsh cleaning that left considerable hairlines on the obverse and have been disguised somewhat by the heavy toning.
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I agree with NumisEds' post. John1  |
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Unless the coin looks very different in hand I think this one was misgraded.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Jeesh, sure looks market-acceptable to me.
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It's important to recognize the original images are TrueView glamour shots, showing the coin at it's best and often better than it actually looks. I hope cipster doesn't mind because I'm going to take the liberty of posting some regular slab shots below. It's not so pretty.   |
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BH1964 - thanks for posting those pics because they are the ones that caught my attention and the amount of detail looks good for the grade and that's why I'm interested.
Many of our members like toned coins that resemble the True View but I actually prefer a natural coin like the one Numis Ed posted earlier.There are other pics in the listing and they all look different - a common problem without having the coin in hand. I think I'll contact the seller and get his opinion on which pic seems to be most like the actual coin..
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Those scratches between bust and date are practically invisible in the TV. Those seem like the ones that got the details grade, and rightly so IMO.
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Personally, I wouldn't consider a purchase of this magnitude from looking at pictures. It would have to be a close in hand inspection for me.
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Those scratches between bust and date are practically invisible in the TV. Those seem like the ones that got the details grade, and rightly so IMO. I had the same thought, but the scratches on the Stacks photos (see below) do not show up. I guess the scratches are on the holder. The following is the comments from the Stacks Auction: Sold $3,120 LOT DESCRIPTION 1795 Flowing Hair Half Dollar. O-109, T-16. Rarity-4. Two Leaves. VF Details--Scratch (PCGS). Peripheral toning in vivid cobalt blue is more extensive on the obverse, and makes the coin's eye appeal greater than one might expect for the assigned grade. A short, sharp scratch in the upper reverse field explains the PCGS qualifier, while there are wispy hairlines and a touch of glossiness that suggest an old cleaning. Plenty of bold striking detail remains, enhancing the desirability of this mid grade early half dollar. The Overton-109 pairing represents the first of two uses for this obverse die (per Tompkins, 2015), the second and final use coming in the O-108 marriage. While the former variety is readily obtainable, it is a conditionally challenging variety that is seldom offered above the VF level. Tompkins Die Stage 4/1.   Edited by Slider23
03/04/2024 4:58 pm
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I could not call that scratch tiny. It is in the centre of the coin. Very visible.
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If you look carefully at both the Stacks and PCGS photos, those scratches obvious in the slab photo are on the coin. I've drawn lines near where they are. If you bought based on those images thinking the scratch was only the small one on the reverse, you'd be disappointed I think.  |
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Those scratches between bust and date are practically invisible in the TV. Those seem like the ones that got the details grade, and rightly so IMO. Quote:
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those scratches obvious in the slab photo are on the coin. I've drawn lines near where they are. If you bought based on those images thinking the scratch was only the small one on the reverse, you'd be disappointed I think. Ummmmm... those obverse scratches are adjustment marks. PCGS pretty much ignores those until you hit GEM. Often does PCGS recognize more than one problem, but only call out one problem on the label. They saw both the cleaning, oddball toning, and the scratch and detailed it as deserved. The label can get cluttered real fast. I saw a bust half today that was labeled as Corroded, Cleaned, Scratched, and Tooled! What a mouthful! Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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They don't look like adjustment marks. They're across fields and devices and appear more recent than the coin itself.
Edit: on a second look they do look aged and could very well be adjustment marks.
Edited by BH1964
03/04/2024 9:43 pm
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