1892 Alexander III 5 Roubles Gold Coin

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retro599 New Member Canada 3 Posts	Posted 03/23/2024 3:57 pm NEED OPINIONS/ADVICE PHOTOS BELOW TL;DR Could anyone tell me what they think this coin is worth, your best estimate at what it could be graded at (worst case / best case and if it's worth me getting it graded and any other insight, advice, or opinions. SpecificationMetal: Gold (0,9)Weight: 6,45 gPure gold: (0,1866 oz) 5,805 gDiameter: 21,3 mmEdge: InscriptionAspect ratio: Medallic (#8593;#8593;)Mintage UNC: 128,006 DescriptionCountry: RussiaPeriod: Alexander IIIDenomination: 5 RoublesYear: 1892Ruler: Alexander III (Emperor of Russia)Mint: Saint PetersburgPurpose: Circulation Hello, my names Dylan I've always been interested in coins and numismatic but I'm still a noobie and I wouldn't consider myself very educated in the space. I'm here looking for some of your opinions and advice I was recently given this coin from my Dad, he had it in a pouch with a bunch of other very common sovereign gold coins. :( As I was researching all of them, this one stuck out as quite rare, only 128000 were minted compared to the other years which had a mintage of 500k-1m+ I've seen past sales on heritage auction of this coin selling for a lot of money, I've found myself constantly comparing the images I took of my coin to the images of the coins they have on there. I thought my coin looked great compared to the other coins but when I took an image without flash and a better camera I was quite disappointed as there is a great amount of toning in the coin. I was really hoping if I got this graded it would be possibly above ms62 but now I'm starting to think I'm being a little optimistic. Could anyone tell me what they think this coin is worth, your best estimate at what it could be graded at (worst case / best case and if it's worth me getting it graded and any other insight, advice, or opinions. Also, from the little I research about the topic, I know cleaning the coin in anyway is a NO, but is there anything I can do to clean the dark toning or is the deal sealed and it is what it is since anything else would further devalue the coin? TL;DR Could anyone tell me what they think this coin is worth, your best estimate at what it could be graded at (worst case / best case and if it's worth me getting it graded and any other insight, advice, or opinions. Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 03/23/2024 8:06 pm to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36415 Posts	Posted 03/24/2024 1:38 pm Your coin appears to be AU-55 "details" as it looks cleaned. It is a slightly better date and your best bet on values is search ebay for current and sold listings. Report this Post to the Staff
retro599 New Member Canada 3 Posts	Posted 03/24/2024 6:45 pm @IndianGoldEagle It hasn't been cleaned as far as I know, I believe my dad just had it in an envelope for a few decades haha. It still has the cart wheel luster when I move it around. Does this change anything? Also, just out of curiosity, what makes you think it has been cleaned? Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36415 Posts	Posted 03/24/2024 8:50 pm Hairline marks both sides in the fields caused by wiping. The first two photos show the fields bright and shinny while the protected areas in the lettering are frosty and dull. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187446 Posts	Posted 03/25/2024 11:55 am to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
jecz79 Pillar of the Community Portugal 655 Posts	Posted 03/25/2024 7:07 pm I could be wear? I ask that because the lines in the flat fields more exposed to wear look random. Report this Post to the Staff
retro599 New Member Canada 3 Posts	Posted 03/25/2024 9:52 pm It's never been cleaned according to my dad, but who knows, its a very old coin he bought from his neighbor in India decades ago. Anyways, I'm going to send it in for a grading to PCGS or NGC, do y'all have any opinion about which one I should send it to? I was going to choose NGC Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 04/09/2024 11:47 pm You're new to things... don't try to touch to clean, improve, etc. You don't know what you're doing yet, almost certainly you'll only hurt it. PCGS vs. NGC... both solid, NGC a bit more liberal. Does look possibly lightly wiped, fields a bit bright... but the points above about hairlines... eh, not egregious. Part of it is those flash photos, which are quite unflattering to the surfaces. Additionally, plenty of luster on the eagle side. It probably comes back AU detail, cleaned. It's "AU+", but on "Details" pieces, it's either AU or UNC with no further breakdown at either service (ANACS does). Maybe, possibly, if the surfaces are less bright in hand... it worms its way into an NGC AU55, straight grade. Quote: ...your best bet on values is search ebay for current and sold listings. There aren't a heck of a lot of these rarer Alexander III gold pieces on ebay vs. the common later Nicholas II types. Best to check Heritage and European auction house results. It's a higher 3-figure piece. Certainly a better piece to stumble on. Edited by realeswatcher 04/09/2024 11:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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