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19* Lincoln Memorial Cent From Coin Roll, Error Or Post Damage

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I found this coin in a bank roll today. At first I thought it was PMD and then I noticed in IN before America on reverse. Your thoughts?
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Harshly damaged, likely with a chisel or wire cutters.
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Ouch, just damage from a cutter of some sort.
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Post-strike damage of a vicious nature.
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Horribly damaged coin. I'm not even sure if it can be spent at this point.


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At first I thought it was pmd


Correct! Don't second guess your knowledge on these obvious damaged coins
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PMD
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Just PMD. It's been heavily damaged.
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 Posted 04/10/2024  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkennedy1945 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How do you explain the clear IN before America on the reverse?
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"IN" Looks like a vise job to me along with other damage, another original work of art
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How do you explain the clear IN before America on the reverse?

Something with "IN" stamped onto it was squeezed or impressed onto this coin. What was this mysterious object? It doesn't really matter - another coin, a tool that was measuring something in inches, some other random object. Whatever it was, it did not happen during the minting process, and so is not a mint error.
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Agree with above, Damaged Cent.
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notice how the 'IN' is backwards - (look at the N) this is a clear sign that the coin damager used another cent to squeeze onto this one the design elements in order to fake an error.
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How do you explain the clear IN before America on the reverse?

I'll wager some speculations! Pareidolia is a powerful thing. Considering this coin appears attempted to be cut, perhaps those are grooves from a set of textured vise jaws. Possibly it is an artifact of some kind of pliers or vise grips

Maybe it's actually a word from a set of stamped vise jaws. Maybe a kid was in his dad's machine shop and tried to hold it with a stamping fixture for the cut attempt. Possibly somoene crushing something together against it that was harder than copper but with a raised "made in America" and all we have evidence for is the "IN." Maybe I'm completely wrong and the penny was stuck under the metal edge of an industrial metal door sill and got driven over by a forklift or pallet jack a couple times before someone put it in their pocket.

--the possibilities are endless! Whatever the case, the mechanical forces were not strong enough to cut the coin but strong enough to create the indentations. It may be marks of interest aren't actually a word but we perceive it as such because our brains love to puzzle things out.

It should be noted that the forum has seen many cases of lettering mashed into a coin where they don't belong, it's PMD and not a minting error.
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