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1913 P $5 Indian Gold

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 Posted 04/19/2024  11:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This looks like ex jewelry in hand. I know this series is highly and heavily counterfeited.

Thoughts on authenticity would be appreciated... Although seeing the luster of the $5 and $10 gold pieces from my previous threads I'm not interested in this one...just trying to learn the series.


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 Posted 04/19/2024  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tough call as to the authenticity on this one. Photos just aren't clear enough.
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I agree IGE. I also don't like the condition of the coin. I own a $10 indian and the detail on this coin doesn't feel the same. Nor does it feel the same as the other $5 and $10 gold pieces.
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 Posted 04/19/2024  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One thing I don't like about this one is the lettering size variations on the reverse. Here is a PCGS photo of a genuine P mint reverse. Look at the F in FIVE. Many other letters are irregular. Looks like a red flag to me.

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 Posted 04/19/2024  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you give us the weight?
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Sorry... 8.36 g

Usually,if weight is wrong on one of these I don't bother bringing it to the forum.

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IGE makes a good point, but the quality of your photos makes it difficult to compare.
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I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling here but it's a common date so the gold content is what's important (value-wise). The weight is perfect so if it's dimensional correct you have about a 1/4 ounce of gold worth $600 (even if it's a gold slug). It's AU so even a genuine piece is worth $600.
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My guess is this one is a 1970's Lebanese counterfeit. They were correct on weight and sometimes even better in fineness as they were used as a way to sell gold at that time.
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