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Picked this up at the coin show today in Vancouver. I think it's an indented strike, but the edge of the indented area doesn't look uniform, so I wonder if it was struck by a planchet fragment instead?  Edit: after a closer look with a 16x loupe, I can see some lettering (II of Elizabeth II) and a bit of design in the indented area, so now I think its a partial brockage. Edited by johnnysprawl 04/20/2024 4:57 pm
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Russian Federation
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Looks like either part of the planchet broke off after strike (or perhaps consisted of multiple layers in the first place), or the indent was made by something soft enough to transfer the force. Otherwise the outline of the ship wouldn't be nearly continuous like that. Layering with a planchet fragment is technically possible, I think, but I'm not sure why it would be so weirdly shaped?
I wonder if the date could be identified, after all. It almost looks like it's just barely showing through on the indented part... but the final digits are weaker than the initial ones, so maybe we couldn't get it any farther than 19xx (which of course wouldn't help much).
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Pillar of the Community
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Obverse pic please?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 04/20/2024 5:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Obverse is normal 
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Pillar of the Community
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2.2 g. So it must be a 1968 seeing as it's nickel and the RCM reduced the weight to 2.07g in 1969?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very nice! 
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm no error expert but it's not an indented strike, it's a "struck through".
Is the rim scraped as it appears to be in your pic?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Quote: after a closer look with a 16x loupe, I can see some lettering (II of Elizabeth II) I see way more than that. Clockwise, I see "II HTEBAZ". The E, B, Z backwards. I agree with DBM on a strike through. The kicker is the font, looks too big for a dime.  Great coin johnny. I hope the experts figure it out. 
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Russian Federation
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Quote: I see way more than that. Clockwise, I see "II HTEBAZ". The E, B, Z backwards. This would suggest that the indent is so deep that we're seeing a ghost image of the other side... AFAICT all Canadian nickel dimes (at least, with this portrait) weighed 2.07 grams? If that's true, a weight of 2.2 grams would suggest an 1965-68 silver dime with a missing piece (presumably some kind of extreme delamination).
Edited by january1may 04/21/2024 07:58 am
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Nice example! 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: This would suggest that the indent is so deep that we're seeing a ghost image of the other side... Not quite, the lettering is on the curved rim of the reverse, which doesn't line up with the lettering on the obverse. Quote: AFAICT all Canadian nickel dimes (at least, with this portrait) weighed 2.07 grams? If that's true, a weight of 2.2 grams would suggest an 1965-68 silver dime with a missing piece (presumably some kind of extreme delamination). I think the RCM made the change to nickel in 1968. My dime is magnetic.
Edited by johnnysprawl 04/22/2024 4:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Is the rim scraped as it appears to be in your pic? Yes, there is a small scrape/flattened area on the curved/upturned rim of the reverse.
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Looks more like it was struck through cloth or something similar. Nice coin even if the cause is never clearly determined.
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