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1963 5c Double Struck

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Also picked this one up today at the coin show.

It's a double struck 1963 nickel. But sometimes I see 3 strikes (particularly on the obverse)?

Yes, all the devices are raised and the rim is intact all the way around.

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Way over my pay grade.
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Pretty sure this was struck from false dies. Not a mint error.
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Pretty sure this was struck from false dies. Not a mint error.


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Now that's a new one for me.
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I don't understand why the rim has no impressions
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The rim should show damage from underlying off center strike. Red flags. Would need to see it in hand. I count 4 strikes on rev
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I don't know on this one.

I'm not sure due to the fact that the additional strikes left too much of the underlying details with no flattening. The details are usually obliterated by the 2nd, 3rd, etc. where they can almost disappear. Also, with the additional strikes being off center, I don't see any indications of being broad struck.

When I look at the letters in CANADA, the letters don't look like they were struck from the same die. The cut of the letters doesn't look to be of the same design and shape.
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What happened to the last A in Canada on the second strike? Why is "5 Cents" not doubled?
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Most definitely struck with fake dies... No real coin die would produce the outer edge of a coin, that is only produced by the collar die meeting with the edge of the other two dies.
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Mike might want to see this one.
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Most definitely struck with fake dies... No real coin die would produce the outer edge of a coin, that is only produced by the collar die meeting with the edge of the other two dies.

I tend to agree. I don't think a second rim should be there
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I'm in the struck with fake dies camp.
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After looking at this coin, put me "tentatively" on team genuine double struck, albeit a rotated and tilted secondary strike. The devices are correctly oriented and not inversed as a post mint double strike vise job would be.

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Why is "5 cents" not doubled?

It is doubled, look to the upper left towards the rim as I see the secondary 5 CE then fades from there...

We may have to look at what the dies looked like back in 1963 when this nickel was struck to garner better ideas...

It almost looks like somebody in 1963 was playing with the dies at Ottawa so it could be a mint employee assisted error...
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