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1961-D Lincoln Memorial Cent Lamination ?

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 Posted 04/22/2009  10:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this tonight going threw a BU roll of 1961Ds. Looks like a lamination defect to me. Whats your thoughts and is there any premium for these if it is? Thanks

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 Posted 04/22/2009  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like a die chip. A lamination is more of a peeling effect.
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 Posted 04/22/2009  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a die gouge to me.
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 Posted 04/22/2009  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow beat me to it and your fast. I just found a few more just like it in the roll that match. So I figured it was a die chip. At first I thought it was something under the layer, then it hit me these are copper not zinc.
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 Posted 04/22/2009  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A die chip just doesn't look like that. Here's what a die chip looks like.

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 Posted 04/22/2009  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rockdude is correct. Die chips are pieces that fall out of the die due to weakness in an area of the design. If you look at something that protrudes from the surface of the coin and doesn't obviously show as having come from a weakness in the design, then it's not a die chip. Die chips follow the design - sort of like chipping the edge off a brick. You don't chip a brick in the middle first, it's always an edge.

The indendation in the die that caused the mark on the coin in question did not chip off of an edge of a letter or other design element, it is perfectly straight (which chips never are), and it runs completely through design elements (which chips do not do).

This is a die gouge.

A tool or something else damaged the die, leaving an impression that shows as a resulting hump of one sort or another on the coins.

No premium value for die chips or die gouges.
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 Posted 04/22/2009  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Again people, still learning.
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