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1958 D LWC Doubling On Lincolns Mouth Caused By Worn Die?

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I found this the other day in my pocket change. I believe this is Mechanical Doubling or done by a worn die. I know this isn't a true DDO. I am trying to identify these types of coins and what causes this type of doubling.
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Looks like Machine Doubling.
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That's really cool. It's a keeper!
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I have a really nice Buffalo nickel that has the same look. All of the features have a doubled profile to the East.

I was fairly new to collecting when I bought it and thought I had hit the jackpot when I started looking at the coin. I had found a major doubled die coin that had never been seen. I called the dealer that sold it to me and started to ask about it and he said 'Oh, yeah. You found the Machine Doubling on that coin.' I was a little disappointed, but I was in my early teens. I realized I had a lot of learning ahead of me!
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Decent example of MD.
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Agree, nice example of MD.
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Not sure I've seen MD before that primarily affected the profile. It's quite a nice example to show MD.
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I can't seem to locate information on how this MD happens in such a small area of the die, can anyone explain how this happens during the minting process. Its difficult for me to vision how this occurs. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It is one of the great mysteries of Numismatics. I have never heard a completely satisfactory explanation.
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Rpmsrpms, I hard for me to see how a solid die can cause MD in such a small area of the die and not affect a larger area of the coin. Perhaps a worn die, or over polished of sort, most over polished dies show up as some feature of the die missing. Just trying to understand how this happens. Calling something, something without an explanation doesn't work for me. This is what it feels like.
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Yes, it is a very interesting example. I'm not sure I've seen another like it. Would like to see others if folks have examples.

Normally MD happens closer to the periphery. Sometimes it happens over much of the coin. But just to happen near the center? I'm with the OP in saying I don't see how it happened. Plus it happened on the chin, lips, and eyes, but not on the nose? Could it be an MD fantasy piece?
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Error-ref's page on doubling includes very specific explanations as to how push doubling can appear along with a photo of a very similar example of a Lincoln Cent with doubling on much of the same area:

https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Machine+doubling
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HGK3,Thank you very much for the link, that is exactly what I was looking for. I didn't locate this site, its has a bunch more information than others I looked at. Thanks again.
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Cool MD. Keeper for sure. Very few of these are out there.
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