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Identical Die Crack On 1996-P JFK Halves

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I got my first two boxes of halves yesterday and I'm going through some of them today when I find a very nice 1996-P. I easilly spot a die crack that starts, on the obverse, at the designer's initials, runs along the high part of the neck-line, and continues between the 1 and the 9 all the way down to the rim.
No big deal, but I put it aside anyway. I went to work, came back and kept going through rolls and I find another one, identical to the first, same year, mm and everything. Then a few rolls later, yet another. So far I have three 1996-P halves with identical die cracks.

Is this common? Rare? Does anyone else one of these?
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UPDATE: About 5 coins, not rolls, coins after posting I found #4, then #5. Although #5 does not reach to the rim. It's much shorter, and the coin is more worn than the rest.
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 Posted 04/26/2009  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Texas collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After 26 rolls, and I probably missed a lot before I noticed the first one, there are 9 with the die crack, and about three without it.
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That's great! Is there enough variety in the crack so you could plot the progression?
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After the first box, I have 27 1996-P with the die crack, 18 of which are nice looking AU. I also found three 1998-P with the same die crack.


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They are probably from different dies as it may be a design flaw. If you looked closer at the 18 96's then you may find markers that may show the same dies. But with several from 96 and 98, then that would show a possible problem.
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So, is this common, to find so many at once? Should I even keep them?
It seems weird that so many of these are in such great condition. I've found, at the most, maybe four or five in this condition from any other date, but over 20 for 1996-P. (Yes, it's over 20 now, I started on the second box.)
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I can imagine that the mint won't replace that die untill it fails completely. And they consider a crack normal wear. How many coins can that die produce? There is your answer.
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Ok, thanks for the help. I'll probably keep one or two, but I guess there's no reason to keep any more, huh? Oh well, they're interesting if nothing else.
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I have rolls of BU 96 halves with the same crack. A fair amount of coins I have been through in circulation also exhibit the same dies crack in various degrees of progression.
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Ok, that's what I was looking for, someone else who has found lots of these. I also found some from 96, 97, 98 that had very short cracks, starting in the same place as the 96, but does not travel very far.
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Pre-1965 Washington quarters frequently had die cracks forming at the base of the bust and occasionally they would develop into a full blown die break that would extend to the rim and around the date. The lowering of the design relief over the years reduced the cracking in that area.

Taking that into consideration, Coop had some good words and it probably is a stress point on the die. I have never seen one of these cracks on a JFK but I have looked at many more Washingtons than I have JFKs
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My goodness, there are a lot of these. I just got 8 in one roll! I can pour out a roll in my hand and tell you how many 1996-P's there will be with a die crack just by looking at the edges. All the unc-looking edges will be a 96-P with a die crack. This is ridiculous. I thought they were neat at first, but now I want some silver :)
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