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1542-1555 Spanish 2 Reales / M-G - Authenticity Question

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 Posted 05/14/2024  5:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jakes Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Last one that I have questions on, This came with a recent purchase.
Was wondering if this would possibly be genuine. Seems to be quite a few weakly struck spots. The weak spot of the lion & weak spot of the pillar "TR" seem to be in the same spot when flipped. Very shiny for something that is supposed to be 450+ years old. Does seem to have some pvc. I don't have my calipers handy but weight is 6.78 grams.

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I've been collecting for a couple years... Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set | Coffee, Corvettes, Coins & the CCF what could be better?
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 Posted 05/31/2024  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwiskers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Jake ... I would suggest contacting Dan Sedwick ( https://www.sedwickcoins.com/ ), sending him your pictures, & asking his opinion. If genuine, it would be worth the cost of his certifying the coin ... It looks to me that it could be a well-made cast copy from an original, as the details are correct of this later issue of assayer Juan Gutierrez, 1544-1546(?), Mexico City Mint ... I'm no expert, but Dan is (one of the world's foremost...)
...If genuine, the coin would have a value in the $375 - $450 area ... these are among the earliest New World coinage issued by Spain, & nice examples are in good demand ...
... best wishes on this one ...
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 Posted 05/31/2024  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jecz79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a cast copy that came defective in the crown area.
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 Posted 05/31/2024  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwiskers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a comparison with a genuine 2R sold NOV 2022 in one of Sedwick's auctions ... note the many slight differences, which would indicate different dies used ...
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If Jake's is a counterfeit, Sedwick may want to add your pictures to his known fakes list ( a very small portion of the more common fakes are available to view on his website: https://www.sedwickcoins.com/modernpirates.htm ... click on "Fakes to avoid" ...

...I would also suggest having your coin's silver tested for content. If it's a fake, sterling (.925), or a lesser grade may have been used ( authentic purity for this coin is .931). It should be noted that it's weight of 6.78g is only slightly (.027%) over the norm (6.6g) ...
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