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1904-S Double Eagle - Advice On Authenticity Please!

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My local coin dealer has a 1904-S double-eagle which he acquired with a collection he purchased. It's a coin type that's not widely collected in the UK so you don't see them often, but a provincial coin dealer may be stuck with one for a long time before finding a buyer. I've been offered it for melt value. I am tempted, but have some reservations. I've attached the best photos I could take in the rather dark conditions at my LCS.

The coin looks around XF, possibly low MS, but the obverse looks as though it's been polished. There are traces of lustre between the letters on the reverse, not obvious in these photos. The milled edge is pristine - maybe a little too pristine.

My main concern is the color. I have several other US gold coins and they are generally a yellowish color. This coin looks more coppery in tone. The photos are a bit washed out but give the idea. My St. Gaudens $20 (which was supplied from a London dealer with a certificate of authenticity) is distinctly more yellow than this coin. The scales shown are known to be accurate. Advice please!
1904-S-Double-Eagle---Advice-On-Authenticity-Please!
1904-S-Double-Eagle---Advice-On-Authenticity-Please!
1904-S-Double-Eagle---Advice-On-Authenticity-Please!
1904-S-Double-Eagle---Advice-On-Authenticity-Please!
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Looks silver to me
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Polished? Fingerprint on obverse? Does your LCS have an XRF?
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Weight is very close.
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If it's genuine, but polished, it's worth only bullion value anyway, and there are safer ways to buy gold bullion coins. I wouldn't buy unless you had confirmation that it's .900 fine gold.
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That coin has been polished within an inch of its life. It looks like someone ran over a buffing wheel for a few minutes. It's likely genuine but I would not pay melt for it. The dealer might have bought it for several hundred dollars under melt. Have an xrf done and offer them 5% back of melt.
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Probably was in jewelry. Looks AU "details" polished to me. Clearer photos would help. All of my $20 Libs are more coppery in color so if weight is correct I think you'll be okay. It is damaged so will only be a bullion coin.
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Hard pass.
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Thanks for advice everyone.
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Definitely would pass on it.
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Jewellery piece , polished !
Needs to see the inside of a
Melting furnace .very hard pass!
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Needs to see the inside of a
Melting furnace .very hard pass!

Well that is a bit harsh. Maybe hole it and use it as an earring

Too bad it got polished so much, it could have been a nice coin.
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Shrug. Not something I'd want to own even at melt, especially these days.
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