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Spain 1890 Pgm 5 Pesetas - Child King Alfonso XII - Possible Fake

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KM 689
Weight 24.8g
Mint mark: 6-pointed star '90'
37mm dia

Not my day.

I desperately want to call this one genuine and add it to my collection, but there is the small problem of an obverse test spot at 3 o'clock showing blue. At 10 o'clock above 'X'III also blue and looks like to me like a repair to a casting where the metal was poured in.

Tell me I'm hallucinating and that this coin appears genuine.


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 Posted 05/28/2024  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@paul, any chance you have the coin in hand? I'm dubious about that being a casting mark, but an edge shot in that region would be super-helpful.
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The black spot on the rim above the XIII looks more like a corrosion spot than a casting sprue to me. There seems to be other patches of cleaned-up corrosion (around the POR on obverse and the N of ESPANA on the reverse). Silver shouldn't "corrode" under normal conditions, so perhaps it's fire damage that's been mostly cleaned up, except for a couple of stubborn patches?
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 Posted 05/29/2024  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul St Louis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for delay Spence, I was filing away a recent coin hoard purchase I added to inventory. I tried making edge photos for you. Also, any thoughts on that acid test blue spot? I was always under the notion it points to a nickel coin. And thanks Sap, for your thoughts as well.
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This one looks authentic as well. I agree with Sap that the spot is just local toning. It is cleaned though. The rim look okay as well.

Overall, its a well worn and cleaned 5 Pesetas
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Thanks everyone.
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