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"Loops" On Imperialist Russian Silver Rubles

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 Posted 04/27/2009  6:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm just wondering if anybody knows anything relative to the history of these things. All I know is the coins were passed down in the family, and the loops were probably affixed by blacksmiths, as opposed to jewelers, just given the crude quality of the workmanship. They seem pretty standardized, too (don't suppose you'd know what company made them, huh? j/k). I do know how the numismatic value of the coins is hurt real bad by these, so you're not being full of any news, there. Just want to know more about the loops, anything historically-significant, that kind of thing. Appreciate it; thank you.

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 Posted 04/28/2009  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are quite common - and you could look at it fortunately or unfortunately. I've picked up some lovely EF "coins" that have had this treatment so numismatically they are near worthless - but you can still appreciate the design.

I suspect that alot of this work was actually done by someone in the family - not an outside agent - alot of people were more skilled in that sort of thing than nowadays - though not up to jeweler standards.

all the best
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 Posted 04/28/2009  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, Bacchus2, I never thought they may have been put on by family-members as opposed to outside agents. Just have to buy the loops. Thanks. Anyone else with any thoughts/insights? This is your big opportunity. :)
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Here's a little tragedy I just thought I'd show off for everyone's viewing displeasure. Two centuries on the button, and a scarce one, at that. I wonder what kinds of chains or ropes might have survived, what period-style. I think I'd like to duplicate one, here. Haven't found any information on that, yet, anywhere, either. I suppose it could have been anything from twine to wire to linked-chain. Maybe I'll write to Yale, maybe they might know something? Any other sources anyone can think of? Would appreciate the help, of course. Kind of stuck, here, too. Thanks.

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I read that it was a common practice(in XIX Century) to give soldiers of Russian Army silver rouble as a reward. Soldiers attached a loop and wear them as a medal on the chest.
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 Posted 04/29/2009  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add omg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for my bad english :) ... alexgutmancoins is true. and this loops make children and use such coins as talisman. many coins have perforated hole/loops for put on wire and used as talisman.
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Wow thanks very much guys, that's fascinating! I love to hear all I can on these, and the information seems to be pretty scarce. Keep 'em coming, any piece of the puzzle, this helps a lot!
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Very often people do a ring to carry a coin on a neck. It can be children, young girls etc. Sometimes they make hole in the coin. It means You are happy guy - they don't damaged coin so much.
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