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Smoking Jefferson Nickel 1964

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 Posted 07/03/2024  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sickpuppy78501 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No.Added.Value.
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Weaverjsnw,

We need much better photos to really help you.
Your coin is not a mint error it is PMD.
I also moved your thread to the proper section of the forum.
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Gotta ask, what does the reverse look like?
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Hi Weaverjsnw and welcome to the forum.
By the looks of the coin, it appears that it was pressed into a metal washer, as you can see the gap above Jefferson's head. The nickel itself is all worn down or ground down to fit inside the washer and someone melted some solder on his mouth to make it look like he is smoking. It looks like it was made to put on a money clip as a joke and it fell off.
It's completely damaged and worth nothing but what you could get for a piece of costume jewelry at best. Have a good day.
Sorry for the bad news. ErrorsRCool.
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I will attempt to get a better photo however the 300kb limitation is making that kind of hard. I have a 50mp camera. I agree it did not leave the mint with the bezel on. There is the possibility it is an error. You cannot say it couldn't have left the mint that way. There are lots of errors out there that are way more obvious. It could be soldered and then worn down. But I don't think it is. I guess youd have to touch it with an iron to see if it melted. What caught my attention intitially was the bezel not the anomaly. Seemed odd to me. Then I noticed what was on it. As to the value that is not my motivation here. I collect coins because I like things that are different. Most of my collection would be considered junk but they are different than you normally see. I think this was worn as a necklace or similar item.
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You cannot say it couldn't have left the mint that way.


We most certainly can. A LOT of people here understand the minting process extremely well. They know what can and cannot happen during the minting process. This should be every single collector's very first goal. I can't stress that enough. Makes collecting so much easier.

Imagine going trout fishing, you get there and realize you have no idea what a trout is. Woops

This is what probably 90% or better of coin collectors do, they look through coin after coin for hours on end, looking for errors.... but they have no idea what an error is or how they happen. If you understand the minting process and know what can and can't happen, your coin gets thrown in the junk bucket immediately and you move on and never look back. You don't sit there and try to figure out what happened, because you know it can't happen during the minting process

I'll give you an example, I'm going through coins and find this...

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I KNOW it's an error immediately because I KNOW this is what happens when the edge of a die breaks off. If I flip the coin over, I know there will be weakness on the other side opposite the Cud because the reverse has no resistance on the other side.

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Ok here we go. These are good closeups...
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to the CCF

I see a damaged coin. Does not really matter how it became damaged, it did not leave the mint like this.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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Ok thank you for that explanation. That's a much better response than what I got before. I can accept that. I'll just keep it along with all my other misfit coins. Just thought it was worth a closer look.
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Agreed, This has been altered with the addition of the bezel around the coin and the area in front of the mouth has been damaged somehow - How? is something we may never know.
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I will attempt to get a better photo however the 300kb limitation is making that kind of hard.


This is 149KB.

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I will attempt to get a better photo however the 300kb limitation is making that kind of hard.

Just download a photo resizer app from your app store, open it, select the photo you want to resize, and shrink it down to less than 300k. I usually don't get mine to within the 800x600 size limit, but I don't have any trouble uploading them.
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I usually don't get mine to within the 800x600 size limit,
By he way the limit is file size only (bytes), not pixels. Most of my images are side-by-sides, usually 1500x750 and still under 300KB.
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to the CCF The motto and the whole left side has been removed by tooling of some kind. Whatever is in front of the mouth has been left there and not tooled off, making it look like it as added to the surface when actually it is part of the original coin.
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