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Canada 1 Cent 1882 H/H, Multiple Obverse Inscription Errors

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 Posted 07/12/2024  11:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numsrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Below, find images of the subject coin. All thoughts as to rarity, value, etc.,etc...most welcome.


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 Posted 07/13/2024  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you looked here?: https://www.coinsandcanada.com/
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 Posted 07/13/2024  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numsrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you John1 for responding. Yes, I have examined relevant parts of the CoinandCanada website without success.
Price guide and values, Errors and varieties, the Charlton catalog of 2011 (Large cents special issue). All failed to yield a match to the subject coin.
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 Posted 07/13/2024  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently most 1882's have the H/H.

http://goccf.com/t/411698&SearchTerms=1882
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 Posted 07/14/2024  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin!

This is one of 7 known Obv. 1 dies used at Heaton for the 1882 issue. The missing bits and pieces of some of the letters is common. The interesting repunched D's are dramatic but not unusual. Most if not all of the D's on the Obv 1 series for this year have some degree of repunching. All are also single serif N in CANADA and REGINA.

All of the reverses for 1882 have the H/H mint mark. This particular obverse die was paired with 2 different reverses. The first reverse was identified by Zoell back in the 1960's, he called it B5n and described it as "spots between EN in CENT" in his 4th edition. I can't tell from your photograph of the reverse if there are die chips between EN in CENT but it doesn't looks like it from what I can see. That would make this the 2nd reverse paired with that obverse.

The Sept 2023 CN Journal has an article on Zoell varieties.

Value of your coin is standard 1882 Obv 1 for grade rather than for the interesting D's.

Hope this helps.
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Thank you dan-in-crystal-lake for responding.

Very helpful indeed. Regrettably, no spots between E N.

Nevertheless, thanks again...and thanks too to all who took the time to respond...much appreciated!!
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 Posted 07/15/2024  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since the owner of the coin has reposted on another site, I'll put my answer here and add more pertinent info. The 1881's and 82 Obv 1's (that this is) used dies from the 1876's and the Mint just repunched over the areas of the die that had broken strikes from the submatrix. If you are old enough to remember typewriters and the typewriter keys, then you see that the letters are all raised to transfer the letter through the ribbon and make the mark. The submatrix is just like the typewriter keys (raised) and is used to strike the dies that were used. Since the actual submatrices were from 1876, many letters, or part of the design, chipped or broke off, with the result what you posted. The mint just handpunched letters over the deficient die and then started striking coins. To initially strike new dies from the submatrix, it may have taken 2-3 hard compressions and they were not always exactly on top of each other. As such, these 1882's are VERY common and it could be 1, 2, 3, or 10 letters involved. They are not scarce and pretty common and are worth little more than a normal 82. Sorry, you didn't strike the mother load.
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07/16/2024 07:23 am
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Very nice coin.
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