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Valued Member
United States
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There seems to be many people interested in this coin. What should I be looking for? The 9 seems to be slightly lower than the other numbers. The 9 does seem to be sitting on something like an 8. I have not done research on this yet. But no one will explain to me what should I pay attention or look for? Can anyone help me on this? Image Insert: Image Insert: Sorry I actually have two posts going on the same subject? The other post has the photo's of the coins. Yes I used a jeweler's loop on this one. Sometimes they do not come out well, if you can not sturdy yourself then there is never a good shot. Edited by zakota
05/01/2009 6:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That was the only year that had a reverse design without a shield. Without seeing the rest of the coin I would put it in the $35-$45 range.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hi Zakota,
I am loading up some images now to help you see what to look for for that year. Just give me a couple of minutes
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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sorry, just one more quick question...... do you have a magnifying loop? When I do close ups on dates I set the camera to macro mode for close ups and then I hold a magnifying glass over the lens as well for even closer detail. That will allow a clear, image without all the color distortion and pixels getting in the way of your shot. My shots here are a little fuzzy as I was rushing. here is the difference in view (sorry, only coin I had sitting at hand not in a holder) macro view only:  with magnifying glass also:  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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maybe it's my imagination but I think you are right that under the magnification you can see the 8 shape underneath.
Problem is the 9 is formed perfectly so it is hard to figure out what I am seeing. It also seems if I follow the trail of whatever the under number is that it could also be 9 over 9. hmmm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've devoted my hobby to collecting overdates and repunched dates so here are a few thoughts.  The "ear" on the 9 is sure interesting, but you want to be careful to not "connect the dots" to soon and get your hopes up. It could be a lot of things, such as a worn die chip, a die gouge, or the remains of a digit after the die was polished down and a new date was added. One way to test whether a coin is an overdate is do an overlay. Here's an example of where an overlay confirms that a 74 is underneath the 75 on this 1875/74 2 Ore from Sweden. It also helps to shoot from several lighting angles to pick out important details.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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interesting..
how do get the overlay thingies? would love to have some...or make some..
HHB
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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here is his picture a bit clearer..  HHB |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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There's something definitely going on with that 9--I wish I could say more. As for my overlays, it's a bit complex. I take a photo, then do a digital outline of a number off another coin. Then I layer the tracing over a photo of the date on my coin. I like using outlines better because they don't obscure details. |
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Canada
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what program are you using to do that? I figured out how to trace the coin but then how do you get it on top of another picture?
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Valued Member
 United States
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I did all I could do just to get that close up. I used a digital camera and a loop. Technology age, HUH? My scanner I can't get that many DPI for a clear picture. You think it may be worth a few thousand. There is a lot happening on that nine. It does look as it is sitting on an 8, then it has a tail. Then the other lines. I guess it is only fare to ask for $5ooo for each mistake on the date)) It is a VG-8 or VG-12 from what I can tell.
Edited by zakota
05/02/2009 01:07 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For my overlays, I import a photo into Adobe Illustrator. Then, using the pen tool I trace the digit I want to check for on another coin. Then I export that tracing as an eps file into photoshop and scale to the appropriate size. It's rather techy, but I like the results. Edited by DVCollector
05/02/2009 1:43 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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As for the material in the 9, it may be some build-up grime. I am not sure for I do not want to do anything to it till it checks for a few details. In the links people has given there are coins that only have the 9 that has been incorrect. If anything that tail on the 9 stands all. All the photo's I have seen on this variation have no tails? May it be a new one?
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05/02/2009 7:35 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yep, the tail on the 9 is definitely there....had to be on the die.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Great, possibly yet another variety of the 59 , did they make any 2 the same?
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Posted 05/01/2009 4:35 pm
