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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU details, cleaned, based on your second photo of the obverse.
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Bedrock of the Community
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much better photo. I'm not seeing the green hue so glad to see it was photo. a little too much glare from overhead lighting though. this makes it difficult to determine what is luster and what is glare. I'm not convinced there is any wear on the obv now so a better photo of the obv without overhead light/glare might help. maybe give us a similar shot of the rev which may help in grading and determining what if any wear is there. Quote:
the grade is determined by wear, not nicks, and the nicks only come into play to determine the MS grade if you have an uncirculated coin. not true, both come into play and in this case the coin is a high AU coin possibly MS. the obv is well struck with a FH. extensive scratches, marks, nicks etc would net the coin down a grade imo regardless if its AU or MS. keep in mind that TPG's are assigning a grade based on what they believe the coins value is. An MS63 coin overall may be netted down to a 62 due to extensive marks, scratches, scuffs etc. |
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Ill post pics with no lights tonight when I can use the Pic resolution reducer again. Others have said the coin has been cleaned so if that's the case then the gradecis rather irrelevant. What is your opinion on whether it's been cleaned?
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New Member
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Attached are new pics with no overhead lighting as requested. Last chance for inputs on grade and whether it's been cleaned before I have to decide to keep it or send it back. Thanks for all your inputs.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The thread that won't die. Sticking with AU-58 straight. Coin needs to be graded. That's it.  Edited by Coinfrog
08/05/2024 8:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am not crazy about the surfaces. I would send it back. The green is back on the latest set of photos. Way too many slide marks across the legs, bust, shield, torso, etc to get a high AU. To me IF it straight grades it may be a 50.
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New Member
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I appreciate your detailed opinion and I guess I will reluctantly send it back. I've seen much worse coins graded AU/MS by TPGs but with my luck would get the toughest grader that marks it down. And I'm also thinking there must be a reason that a coin this nice looking hasn't been slabbed before.
I don't know where the green on coin is being generated. There is absolutely no green on the coin or in the hi resolution pics I take. I moved the Pic taking location to my sunlit breakfast table area where I didn't need overhead lights (the tablecloth was green but had a white paper under coin). I'm taking the pic with a Samsung S23 but no green shows in the pic until the pic is converted to low res 300k by this sites' photo editor. Weird.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm still at AU details, cleaned.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 United States
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Much better photo. Lovely coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The surfaces are not original to the coin. The obverse, in particular, appears to have been monkeyed with.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Definitely cleaned, great bones though.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 w/paralyse on that obv. not a fan |
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