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  Common to the 1831 are the 3 mint made marks on Liberty's breast, I believe they are called roller marks? If you could comment on them and guess the PCGS grade, I'll post it in a day or so.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I can't see any wear, but I'd like to see more light on the surfaces before grading.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Can you get more light, on the high points? That mark on the breast is a Reed Mark.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't see any wear either and it might be mint state, but more light would definitely help. Agree that the marks on the breast are Reed Marks, made post-mint from a hit by another coin. The variety is O-105, and there are a few die gouges in the field below the bust in this variety. |
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Common to the 1831 are the 3 mint made marks on Liberty's breast, I believe they are called roller marks? Where did you come up with that those 3 marks are common on 1831 Halves? Like E&V stated, they are Reed Marks from a reeded coin's edge coming in contact with your coins surface. |
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I am not convinced those are Reed Marks. But those marks are very distracting to the eye appeal. John1  |
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Those are not Reed Marks, and they are post strike damage. They are relatively common on halves from the 1830s and usually appear in the empty space between the date and the bust. My present theory is that the marks appear in the planchet ejection stage as the coin bumps into the edge of the dentils on the die. I have not seen any die damage from repeated hits that would confirm this theory, but it is actually something I am studying now as I see more examples. Can't grade from these photos, could be somewhere between AU-53 and MS-63. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Hard to know what the surface really looks like with these photos. Better lighting is needed.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've been looking at 1831 bust halves on ebay and have not seen any with those 3 "dots" on them - Yet. EDIT: They are a bit widely spaced for Reed Marks but who knows? Edited by Marv65
08/11/2024 12:11 am
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Thank you everyone for your input! My best recollection of the source of these these being roller marks and being common to the 1831 came from the Sheridan Downey website a while back. I could be mistaken on that though.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like it has some luster, nice coin.
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very nice MS coin, strange widely spaced Reed Marks though. |
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I repeat - those are not roller marks. These are roller marks:   Nice Unc bustie!! Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Since these coins did not have a reeded edge, doubt it could be that. But they are spaced similarly to the denticles. Not sure how that could transfer.
Pretty coin! Thanks for sharing.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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But they are spaced similarly to the denticles. That would lend credence to @jacrispies theory that they are post-strike ejection marks from the denticles on the die. I hadn't realized that they were so common, so I reviewed some photos of bust halves from that era and found several with similar marks. All appear to have the same spacing as the denticles, and all in the lower portion of the obverse. Interesting finding, and I agree they are probably not typical Reed Marks.  |
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Awesome photo @Zurie! Thanks for making that.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Posted 08/09/2024 10:21 pm
