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1957 Nickel: Blueberry Toning? Can This Really Be Natural Cupronickel Toning?

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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. It's very important to have in the title. ***

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/49675772

Straight graded PCGS slab with a neon blue and purple Jefferson nickel. How can this possibly be natural toning? I would love to know what elements in the alloy even make that possible.
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Beats me, but it's slabbed, so that kinda settles it.
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That's also PCGS TrueView so it doesn't look like that in hand.
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Beats me, but it's slabbed, so that kinda settles it.


Not really.

The following damaged vise coin was slabbed and shown on the PCGS website for awhile but removed. I contacted them and the rep I got ahold of said he could not get any info as to why this obvious error was slabbed and could not find a reason they removed it from the website. I already had screenshots of it before they took it down.


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1957-Nickel:-Blueberry-Toning?-Can-This-Really-Be-Natural-Cupronickel-Toning?

Remember that according to the PCGS website, they assigned graders with an expertise in Lincoln cents to grade this coin, and a minimum 2 grading experts agreed upon the grade.


1957-Nickel:-Blueberry-Toning?-Can-This-Really-Be-Natural-Cupronickel-Toning?

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There are blue toned 95% copper so why not 75% coppers? And these aren't even professionally "enhanced" pictures.
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kinda pretty, but,

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have not heard of that - could it have something to do with the blue?
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Blue toned copper is the result of using MS70
on a Brown lustrous mint state coin .
Sometimes you get spectacular results and other
times complete failures .
Some series seem to show better results than others .
Early Lincolns pre 1930 , Indian Heads after 1870 ,
Canada George V Small and Large Cents 1911-36
GB 1/2d and 1d after 1895 are all prime candidates .
NGC , ANACS, and PCGS all let these slide by as
straight grade coins if done properly.
Yes there is some skill involved .
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Blue toned copper is the result of using MS70
on a Brown lustrous mint state coin

Are there any tutorials like on Youtube that shows exactly how this is done? I'd like to see the transformation.
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Anyone worth their salt is NOT
going to share that proprietary
info in a YouTube video !
NCS and the other coin
Restoration firms make a ton of
Dough from doing this sort of stuff.
Best advice buy a bottle , try yourself !
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Could be natural toning, but I am not definite.
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Personally, I think that blue nickel is AT.
The blueish cents can be achieved by washing them with standard hand soap sometimes, so again AT.
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have not heard of that - could it have something to do with the blue?
No. There is an embedded device you scan with an app on your phone to verify the slab is what is says it is. I have used it on a few on my Ike purchases that are in this type slab.

http://goccf.com/t/381763
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Simple internet search, and you can find hundreds of videos on how to artificially tone a copper cent.
One of the funnier versions, was placing copper cents into a bag with chopped hardboiled eggs and it turned the coins blue & purple. Now That's imagination.

My point: An imagination + metal coins+ any combination of cleaners, chemicals, food, heat etc., etc. and you can alter the color.
I'm not saying that your coin in question is artificially toned Brand, but who knows how it got that color scheme.
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If there is a possibility or even probability that this is a naturally toned coin, then what process produced a neon blue and purple color on the coin? Impurities in the alloy, some kind of environmental interaction, or what?

Edit: no ellipsis, huh?
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Edit: no ellipsis, huh?
Gotta do it the three-byte way ...
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