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$2509.65 All Time High Gold Price As Of Friday August 16th, 2024

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 Posted 08/17/2024  12:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have owned & invested in gold since I was 15 years old, to be clear I inherited it.
That's 45 years and seeing the price rise and fall over that time period it is really
kinda nice to see it hit an all time high. I recently did cash in some gold bullion to
make a much needed purchase, and it was nice that it was there when I needed it.
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 Posted 08/17/2024  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone have a graph of the historical gold to silver price ratio? Even at close to $30/ounce, it seems like silver might be a little undervalued now. Thoughts?
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FWIW, the U.S. Coinage Act of 1792 fixed the gold-to-silver price ratio at 15:1. Current ratio in the mid-80s:1 is below the 2020 record of close to 115:1.
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 Posted 08/17/2024  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gold to silver ratio ..absolutely meaningless today!
Gold was 2546 USD at close Friday
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Agree the ratio is likely an outdated tool. Central banks buy and sell tonnage of gold as they consider it another form of money.
The same cannot be said of silver. They may trade in similar context but they are different in the eyes of those who buy the
majority of metals.
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Gold hitting ATH's is due to the economic environment we're currently in, $34 trillion national debt & climbing, interest this year alone will be nearly $1 trillion dollars, inflation, etc. & gold prices will continue to go higher (IMO).

I am also of the opinion that silver is undervalued compared to gold & have been accumulating/paper trading options, in anticipation of another run upward to around the $50 per ounce level & beyond. With the exception of late July, appears the SLV had a little breakdown to the mid $24 level but recovering nicely.
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I have much more weight in silver bullion than in gold bullion but seems like silver just hovers around the same average price.
I have been expecting silver to take off for some time now and I have my finger on the button to sell...
when I do it will go to $68 ounce. There's a guaranteed tip for anyone looking to buy silver
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IDK if there's any legitimacy to it, but I keep hearing the worlds silver reserve will be depleted somewhere between 2028-2033. If true, that would certainly be a catalyst to propel silver prices substantially higher.
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I'll stick to my old advice when I was in the investment business: don't hold more than 5% of your wealth in non income-producing assets.
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Silver stackers have been pushing the undervalued narrative for as long as I can remember. I fell for it and continue to fall for it. I'll keep adding a little each year. Not with the goal of a major payday, but more as an alternative savings vehicle. Knowing the LCS will pay at best 92% of spot gives me little incentive to sell at these prices. And it's a slight pain to sell (gather it up, drive to LCS, fill out paperwork, etc.) so those barriers keep me being a seller.
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In the past I think financial advisors have recommended a 5%-10% allocation of investments in gold/silver. Gold/silver don't pay interest or dividends. But to me gold/silver are to preserve wealth in case of long stock market crashes like the great depression and high inflation where the value of the dollar shrinks. Those who have been buying gold the last ten years or more have seen it's spot price rise significantly. Silver hasn't done as well but it's spot price has gradually risen since it's brief all time highs. I think silver spot price is manipulated by the big bank traders, driving spot prices up/down for profit. J P Morgan was fined hundreds of millions several years ago, several of it's traders went to jail for spoofing the silver market.
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Looks like I will cut back my gold and silver position, I'm more than 10% above the recommendation. No more buying until my other investments even out with PM.
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I'm partially repeating myself from my prior post....most stock market crashes have rebounded nicely and didn't take too long. It took stocks about 25 years to rebound after the 1929 crash. That and the unsustainable national debt, shrinking dollar has motivated some to increase their gold/silver holdings above 10%. In the past when banks failed the Fed bailed them out. But the Dodd-Frank law allows the Fed the option to do a bail-in which means people might not get their savings back, but would be issued a share of what's left of bank assets. It's complicated, I don't understand it very well. The FDIC has only about $125 billion covering $10 trillion in deposits. If there's a major recession or run on the banks in my opinion the Fed would still do bailouts, just borrow more money to cover losses. This would cause more inflation making the purchasing power of dollars even less. The last few years the world Central Banks have been buying a lot of gold. Maybe it's not such a bad idea for people to buy some too.

There may be some YouTube channels, doom/gloom, saying sell all your investments, put it all in gold/silver. This is foolish, the old "don't put all your eggs in one basket" applies.
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It's a good time to sell gold and buy something else. Today's gold price makes collectable coins look like an attractive exchange to me. They have been appreciating in price too, but not as fast as gold.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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It's a good time to sell gold and buy something else. Today's gold price makes collectable coins look like an attractive exchange to me. They have been appreciating in price too, but not as fast as gold.


I will play devil's advocate. While it may be a good time to sell gold based on the all-time high, let me ask you this - do central banks and governments buy collectible coins or do they acquire physical gold? Another question - if in a pinch what's easier to liquidate - gold/silver as a commodity or collectible coins that don't have the same ease of liquidation? It depends on each person's individual situations, but I would rather have something that is relatively easy to liquidate in an emergency (or could potentially be used in a bartering situation if SHTF happens).
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but I would rather have something that is relatively easy to liquidate in an emergency (or could potentially be used in a bartering situation if SHTF happens).

That's probably my main reason for keeping gold, and I recently did have an emergency situation that required me to liquidate some gold, and was able to so very quickly.
I am still going to liquidate my silver bullion (US & Canada Minted) first chance I get.
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