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1827 Large Cent With Inscription On It

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I metal detect as a hobby (I love old coins) and I recently found a coin with E.B.THOMAS, MCH.22 inscribed on it. After a lot of research I was able to obtain the owners Obituary that verified that he was the owner (he was born on March 22, 1827). My question to you is how common is it to have such an old coin with a guys initials, last name and birth date on it. Here is a picture of the coin.


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, to the community. Very interesting find. My guess is that the owner had this as a lucky piece and carried it with him. You mentioned that you were about to obtain a birth record. Were you able to find any history about him?
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Here is a copy of the Obituary we found

Hon. Elihu B. Thomas, the father of Augustus Thomas, the well known playwright, died in St. Louis, April 25, 1910. He was born in New York, March 22, 1827, and has lived in St. Louis since 1845. He was a captain in the Mexican War, and nt the establishment of the St. Louis Dispatch was its pubJisher. He was a member of the Missouri Legislature, of the House of the Twenty-second General Assembly in 1862

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Absolutely fascinating. It's not uncommon to find coins with contemporary stampings on them, but it's rare that you can actually identify a pretty conclusive provenance from one.
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Very nice find! This is a counterstamp often put on coins of that era as advertisements for the individual or business. Again,
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Very interesting find and interesting research you did. It would be more interesting if you can find Augustus Thomas which I think will be very hard.
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We did find a book written by his son that is quite interesting, I have uploaded it to my website for you to download and read if you like. http://www.dvickers.com/The_print_o...embrance.pdf . check out bottom of page 12 and all of page 13 of the book, it talks about the death of Abraham Lincoln.
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Welcome! awesome find!
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It's also interesting that the coin's counterstamp is circular. The linear counterstamps are much more common.
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Very Cool ! Most counterstamps can narrow it down to a company- this one right to a person. Probably considered damage by most, but I would love a coin I could put in someone's pocket ! Congrats !
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Speaking of damage can you see where I nicked the coin with my shovel? You are correct about it not having any numismatic value due to the inscription and the fact that it is a dug coin. For me it is priceless especially since I can track it to one person and have been able to find a little history of this individual.
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I think a printed copy of the obit shadow-boxed with the coin would make for an excellent wall hanging. Just my thoughts.
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I think the Shadow box is a good idea! I have written to the St Louis Dispatch in hopes of getting a copy of his official Obit or the story that should have been written about him since he was the publisher there at one time.
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Well done! The internet has opened up a whole new world for people searches. When you think about the history of this piece, it's mind blowing! I would certainly think this was a personal good-luck coin. Fascinating!
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In the military of the time often the solders were not issued dogtags. Many soldiers had a great fear of being killed in battle and just being an unidentified casualty so they would carry a coin stamped or engraved with their ID so their bodies could be identified.
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