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Can I Get A Confirmation Of A Possible Error In The Listing On Numista Please?

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 Posted 08/30/2024  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dearborn, I am literally agreeing with you, and have been all along. The two Numista listings you have posted are inconsistent, and to become consistent, the half-shekel listing ought to be changed to match the other denominations.
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oh! duh, ok - you kept confusing me with the calendar stuff.. my bad.. my old brain ain't what it used to be.
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Sorry. It's just my knack of pointing out useless and irrelevant trivia, coming to the fore.
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No worries and thanks - Now, I think I may point it out to Numista to see if they can fix it.
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Fall for what? I'm actually being serious here

I was just kidding - I know nothing about Israeli coinage.
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I know nothing about Israeli coinage.

I didn't either until I started posting them up and had to learn how to read Hebrew numbers and letters (backwards)
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 Posted 09/01/2024  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@dearborn, thanks for the heads up. I will see what I can find out. Probably one of the other admins is knowledgeable on the algorithm used for the date conversion (and meanwhile I will try to see if that error pops up consistently or just on this one coin)
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 Posted 09/01/2024  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The year AD 2000 contains pieces of both the AM years 5760 and 5761. The larger piece is in 5760 (January to September), and so the more probable answer to the question "what Hebrew year is equivalent to AD 2000" is "5760" rather than "5761". But saying a coin dated AM 5761 was struck in AD 2000 is not, necessarily, an "error" in the sense of being wrong - it's just inconsistent with the rest of the date conversions for Israeli coins on Numista, as you have pointed out. I'm not defending Numista's inconsistency here, and I'm not saying it shouldn't be changed - I am merely attempting to explain how the inconsistency may have come about.
Indeed for Israeli NCLT coins, which bear dates in both the Hebrew and Gregorian calendars, you can sometimes see both conversion variants:

I agree that the jumping conversions for single dates are inconsistent, though. It's possible that those are the set release years? But then it probably needs a source.

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I'm reasonably certain that the Jewish people didn't randomly bounce the start and end of their calendars.
Hanukkah, specifically, does jump around between Gregorian years, but only rarely, and it cannot start in the new year.
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@dearborn, it looks like a modification was made to the date table a few months ago, which might have caused the problem.

In addition to the dates being inconsistent with other Numista listings, it's also at odds with Krause (which also has mistakes, of course, but probably not in this case).

You can either open the listing by clicking on the little edit icon at the upper right, and edit each of the affected date lines, or you can put an item in the Catalog sub-forum describing the problem.


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Just a quick up-date
I guess my request for a fix worked and the changes have been made and now the dates are correct.
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I guess my request for a fix worked and the changes have been made and now the dates are correct.
Fantastic!
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Excellent job, Dearborn!
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