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1967 25c SMS Strike Error?

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 Posted 09/16/2024  9:33 pm Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
On the reverse bellow the R of dollar there is what appears to be the tip of another r located on the rim. Is this rim restricted design duplication? Is it worth anything or just some type of worthless Machine Doubling?
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 Posted 09/16/2024  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting.
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The 1967 SMS quarter on PCGS shows something similar with the rim.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...25c-sms/5999
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Interesting cert#45594790 appears to have the exact same strike characteristics (they look the same minor collar clash obv with the weird rev anomaly) I wonder if it had something to do with die installation?
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No idea - just sticking around to see what others say...............
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Beats me.
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I did come across "Peripheral Die Damage" at error.ref.com
maybe caused by collar mis-alignment.
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I looked at a number of the PCGS coinfacts examples of the 1967 SMS and noticed this showing on quite a few, and not just in the same location.

Since the rim and Quarter Dollar are both low points on the die and since they are so close together could this just be a little overzealous die polishing, rounding the very small area of the field/rim junction slightly while trying to keep from over polishing either?
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From what I'm seeing in hand it looks more like a stutter strike than anything(?). Not really seeing any die damage or heavy polishing, it seems the reverse was the hammer die for this coin.
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So what should I do with this coin then just set it aside? I'm having a hard time believing it's die damage induced I think whatever was happening probably damaged the die in the end but not so sure the other way around. Can you point out with arrows for me the suspected damage and clarify it to me so I can understand better because at this point die damage doesn't logically make sense to me. If it can be better explained I'm all ears. From what I'm seeing tho it looks like the first point of contact was at the 5 o'clock area on the reverse then contact was made again elsewhere as it finished pressing the coin before being ejected and machine doubled if this were the case I think strong hubbing pressure was involved making it harder to identify as a type 1 stutter strike?(doesn't show apparent weakness on obv) I could just be in way over my head with that theory to but it seems more correct than peripheral die damage. I also find it hard to believe they would polish a perfectly flat crescent into that section of the die and not finish removing the anomaly. I'm genuinely curious to know an answer tho.
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