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How Much Of A Discount Is Warranted For An Attractive Rare Date "Details" Coin?

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Local dealer has the coveted 1893-S Morgan in something like a "VG details" grade. It's a very attractive coin and seems to have no surface issues but, rather, some rim problems and a scratch. How much of a discount off of greysheet, plus his margin, is warranted? If a coin has surface details nuked I could see 50% but if it's just a scratch on an otherwise nice coin I'm curious what folks would think is typical. 20%? 30%?
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I bought this proof, UNC Detail Barber half for about 10% below Greysheet: https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-barb...2117-27407.s
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If there were a details coin I really wanted I'd try to negotiate a 50% discount from whatever current auction sale prices are for comparable no-problem examples. Maybe I'd go higher from there.

In general I avoid known problem pieces.
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Depends on too many factors. Hoe tall is a tree?
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Offer $2000 and haggle.

I picked up a nice looking cleaned high VF 1795 flowing hair dollar a couple years ago for half of price of straight grade at the time. Since then the price of similar cleaned coins has gone up by 40-50%. Tooled and repaired coins have gone up too but not by as much. I'd put the 1893-S in the same class of desirability.
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I think half off gray sheet would be a starting point. The 93S is highly sought after by Morgan collectors. Surely it will be a negotiation process. I guess it depends on the sellers motivation. Good Luck.
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2 things: 1) How much is he willing to sell it for. 2) How much are you willing to pay for it.
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A damaged coin will always be a damaged coin and will never repair itself.

To each their own as a collector - but I avoid damaged coins regardless of price discounts.
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There is not set formula to value a details coin. Try to find a similar example for grade and problems that sold at auction on ebay, GC, Heritage, etc. If you can find a similar example, this will give you a good starting point to make an offer.
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You can't value a problem coin from a price guide describing problem free coins. Look at Stack's or Heritage archives to compare with similar grade and details coins. The 1893-S is common in that grade so there should be no problem.
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