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1861-O Confederate Half Dollar?

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Is this a confederate speared olive half? 1861 O. The reverse has two lines that look like the die cracks. Thanks


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Looks like you have the Wiley-Bugert 104, speared bud confederate issue. Congrats!

Here it is compared to mine (dark brown picture) and as illustrated in the Wiley-Bugert reference.

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Looks like congrats are in order!
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Nice find - good eye to spot that!
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Well spotted!
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Thanks. I have a slabbed one I bought years ago. I keep an eye out for them.
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Nice find, congrats!
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It was a 20 USD auction pick up. Not slabbed so they did not know it was a more rare half. I was thinking of sending it in to have it slabbed. That way its not my word that it is, the grading co has their stamp on it also.
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Nice eyes to spot that one. I've got a raw example in my collection of the same.
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what is the process of getting it slabbed by NGC?
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Most local coin shops can submit this to NGC for you, or you can join NGC yourself and submit directly.
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Thanks for all the replies. You guys are very helpful.
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Good find!

Having cherry-picked a number of these Confederate varieties over the years, my take on this one is that it's not worth paying the freight to get it slabbed. It's a "details" coin, methinks. I've sold similar pieces in low grade for $110-$120. Were it in a higher grade and not a details coin, say worth in the $250+ range, I'd favor slabbing it.

My question: This issue is what it is, so why pay a TPG to tell you what you already know? That said, the slab or not to slab question boils down to a vanity issue for reassurance. For some collectors, this reassurance justifies the added time and expense. Just my take ....
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Very cool. My curious question though.... If this was minted by the Confederacy, why did they continue with the "United States of America," engraving on it?

Was there any actual coinage that they converted to "Confederate States of America"?
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