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Picked this one up recently, MS63 in OGH. The reverse underneath the shield caught my eye and helped push me to purchase. Would appreciate thoughts on what we are looking at. My best guess is simply a planchet flaw.   
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I don't think the flaw is on the planchet. To me, it looks like there are gouges on the reverse. This might be an interesting candidate for a possible new variety with Rick Snow.
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I am no expert on IHC, but that looks like die scratches or file marks. Also, I would like to mention that I own several examples of coins with roller or draw bar lines, including a proof nickel. The lines go right through the devices. This suggests that even a high pressure proof strike on a relatively modern press isn't enough to reshape or remove even tiny planchet lines. Your coin doesn't appear to have those thick lines evident in the shield details. To me, that suggests that the lines are a superficial feature of the die face that skipped over the device cavities.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm with Brand on this one.
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Thx all, RedRaider - is Rick on CCF? I found his site, should I just reach out via contact page or do you know of a more formal variety submission process?
I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins. Dirt coin restoration projects - https://www.prodetecting.com/restorationsDirt coin restoration blog - https://www.prodetecting.com/blog/ccawDirt coin dig videos - https://www.youtube.com/@prodetecting
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Bedrock of the Community
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I am with Brandmeister as well.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Also in the die gouges camp.
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very nice and interesting---send pics to rick snow---i can send the pics to ric snow if you want---let me know---
Edited by mikev50 11/04/2024 7:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Neat. I'd favor this getting a new Snow #.
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Quote: ---i can send the pics to ric snow if you want---let me know--- I sent a contact request via his site with link to this thread. Feel free to forward pics too if you want.
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I went over the Reverse again and this caught my eye as well. At 5:30 
I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins. Dirt coin restoration projects - https://www.prodetecting.com/restorationsDirt coin restoration blog - https://www.prodetecting.com/blog/ccawDirt coin dig videos - https://www.youtube.com/@prodetecting
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sent docc---i will let you know--
Edited by mikev50 11/04/2024 7:54 pm
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Quote: My first thought was a clash...? I did check clashing and it does not line up - at least in ref to the shield area. Even tested rotation and mis-alignment.
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 It might be where a clash was removed, but it's hard to imagine those crisscrossing lines are an obverse device of any kind.
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Brand - what do you make of that sphere on Rev at 5:30?
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