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1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent Sheldon-33 Wheelspoke.

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 Posted 11/26/2024  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AG3 is undergraded IMO and one reason why I usually don't trust TPG's with early copper.
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 Posted 11/27/2024  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
have to keep in mind that it was net graded based on the grader. from what I've seen, I agree w/paralyse in trusting any of them to grade early copper with planchet or strike issues.

personally I'm a huge early copper fan and give them a lot of leeway in grading. my take on it is, if thats the way it came from the mint, it should not detract from the grade unless it was mishandled. But thats just me.

if I was grading this piece i'd have to give it a G details grade due to the corrosion. if that wasnt there i'd give it a G6 straight grade. the obverse is obviously a weak strike in addition to the wear. the reverse has strong lettering and denticles better than an AG or even a G4.

I guess what you need to consider is an AG3 straight grade better than a possible G details grade. I'm doubtful it would come back G6 or even G4 in a straight holder due to the reverse corrosion at K5. thats the chance you would have to take.

I can't get a hold on what actually occurred in the center of the reverse, my best guess its a planchet flaw.

good luck with whatever your decision is. let us know
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 Posted 12/31/2024  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an update on this coin.

It was indeed cracked and sent to NGC who gave it a G-6, which is exactly where I had it at. I think it's a fair net grade for the corrosion spots on a coin that technically has VG details.

It'll probably get crossed one more time to PCGS just to try and get it in their holder, we'll see if it actually passes though.

by the way panzaldi, the reverse weakness is from the die shattering, the reverse die on this variety shattered early on in striking which is why the variety is so rare.
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 Posted 01/02/2025  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very well, hopefully PCGS likes it at Good-6 too. I agree that a cross attempt is a great idea. Regardless, a Good-6 in either holder is a win.
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AG3 seems appropriate for this coin. Still a high rarity.
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This coin is now at auction in stack's summer showcase auction: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...ood-6-bn-ngc
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