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1803 $1 Draped Bust Dollar Large 3 - BB-255, B-6

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Looks like there is a planchet flaw by the arrowheads in the reverse. Defect must have been there when the coin was struck as impressions of the arrowheads can be seen in the planchet void. Thoughts? Thanks!

1803-$1-Draped-Bust-Dollar-Large-3---BB-255,-B-6
1803-$1-Draped-Bust-Dollar-Large-3---BB-255,-B-6
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 07/25/2025  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go AU-50, seems to be softly struck in the centers. Stars and Lettering is strong. Beautiful example! I may have talked myself into AU-53.
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 Posted 07/25/2025  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I was able to attribute it to BB-255, B-6. Let me know if I didn't get the attribution right. Thanks!
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 07/25/2025  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say AU for the grade.
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I'm not into these at all, but that obv die looks way newer than the reverse die. look at the detail in the stars, lettering and date as opposed to the reverse. if I'm just looking at the obv I'm at AU50. I have no idea how the reverse plays into this one.
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 Posted 07/27/2025  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your kind comments. This one was in an ICG EF40 holder and was happy to pay the "ICG discount." Paid $4,362 which I think was more than fair for this coin. I will post in-hand photos when the coin arrives. Let me know if you have any further thoughts. Thanks!
1803-$1-Draped-Bust-Dollar-Large-3---BB-255,-B-6
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 07/27/2025  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin, and a great snag at that price. This would catch attention quickly on any bourse floor.

IMHO, the big question for PCGS or NGC especially would be whether the reverse planchet flaw details the coin. I have strong feelings on what they do with planchet flaws, because "grade" should only measure the state of preservation of the coin after it left the coining press. That said, they both tend to detail planchet flaws, at least if they are "prominent" and large (whatever "large" is). I would not detail this coin any more than I would detail a coin with an adjustment mark, because both of those situations are part of the history of early US coinage. This may be one of the situations where it is better to leave the coin in the ICG holder or keep it raw than to give the details brigade a shot.

Regardless of their opinion, this is a nice coin and would make any collector proud to have it.
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 Posted 07/27/2025  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely coin - thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 07/28/2025  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, I think this one is much better than XF-40.
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 Posted 07/28/2025  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think this is under graded a bit. Very nice buy imo.
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nice buy! She's a beauty.
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Thank you for all of your kind comments. In hand today.

1803-$1-Draped-Bust-Dollar-Large-3---BB-255,-B-6
1803-$1-Draped-Bust-Dollar-Large-3---BB-255,-B-6
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 07/30/2025  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think XF40 is a conservative grade on her
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