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Bicentennial Quarter Die Clash ?

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 Posted 11/10/2024  1:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Trinnitoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone,
I need help in verifying if this is a die clash or not. Note the depression at STATE and at the bottom of the drum, I can't seem to match up the obverse and reverse to verify a die clash, thanks
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 Posted 11/10/2024  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, it looks like a stain.
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Hi Errers, I know my photos are not that good but if you look closely at STATES , you'll see a depression under it then from A to the top star and under the drum at TER you can also see a depression, thanks
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This coin is the gold standard Bicentennial quarter die clash: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/38110925

Remember that you have to mirror flip the obverse after rotating 180 degrees—the same as holding the coin up to a mirror to see the obverse behind the reverse. Here is a very nice die clash overlay by Yokozuna:

http://goccf.com/t/360325#3097215

The parts that usually take the clash the heaviest are behind the drummer's hat (Washington's ponytail), a vertical curve through the flame (Washington's neck), and a line through EPU and into the wrist (Washington's face). On the obverse, the flame under the chin and in front of the throat, right of IGWT.

That area under STATES looks compelling, except the point of Washington's bust would be clashes facing left on the reverse, not right. E&V is right, it's probably a stain, although you should carefully inspect the areas where the clashes commonly occur.
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The main die clash elements appear on the Obverse side of the coin at PCGS.
Your coin does not appear to be a match to that coin. You could post some
in-focus photos of the Obverse side of your coin just to be sure.
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To be fair, it's not impossible that they were mixing and matching obverse and reverse dies. The Mint made a huge number of those quarters in 1975 and 1976.
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Hi everyone, I tried getting some close up on STATES, but this is the best I can right now, there is a depression at states not a stain, which also confuses me as to match up, the obverse doesn't have any signs, thanks

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Here are two closeups of the torch area , it is raised not a stain
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Well, that's intriguing. The new pictures capture the feature better. Are the two sides in proper 180 degree alignment?

Given the smooth shape of the feature, I almost wonder if it's the die face sinking or another structural problem. Definitely an unusual coin.
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