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1967 SMS Quarter - DDO? Updated W/ New Pics (Round 3)

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Hello!

Looking closer at this quarter it appears to have double letters for "in god we trust". but do SMS coins have errors/value? Thank you per usual for any help or guidance!

Happy holidays!
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Here are new pics where I tried to zoom in & reduce the glare.

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Photos round 3!

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Did SMS coins get a second strike like proofs? Regardless of whether they do or not, this does not look like hub doubling. Either from the second strike, if they got them or MD, IMVHO.
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That bears some strong similarities to FS-101. We would need some images of Liberty to confirm that. The doubled dies for many SMS coins presents similarly to Machine Doubling, so it's hard to be sure with just IGWT. The full coin pics are attractive, but I can't see small details for the glare.

http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...7PDDO002.htm
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Did SMS coins get a second strike like proofs?

Per my understanding from prior CCF discussions, no. SMS were polished die, single strike, ordinary planchet.
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It does look similar to this listing, but not sure.

LINK http://varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20...7PDDO002.htm
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You beat me to the link, Brand. I'm still not sure but looks promising. Man, the clads really mess with me....


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I'm thinking maybe Machine Doubling.
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Guessing MD here as well.
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One of LIB would be nice instead of four of ERTY but think my first thought was correct with MD. Thank you for the extra pic.
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Thanks again for the extra pics. I'm comfortable with MD, sorry.
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Appreciate the new images of Liberty. I don't think this coin is a specimen of FS-101. There are no splits and doubling on the R and other letters.

Although I am leaning to the Machine Doubling camp, I can't entirely get past the way that doubling on other SMS coins also resembles Machine Doubling.
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I can't entirely get past the way that doubling on other SMS coins also resembles Machine Doubling.



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Man, the clads really mess with me....



I think these two responses are somewhat related.

I searched dimes for a time and would find actual doubled dies and they looked like MD to me. I really have a hard time with the clads.
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Not seeing the split serifs (lower right) on "RTY" on the OP's coin. Conclude MD on this one.
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I noticed a lack of "splits" on any letters as well which is why I'm in the MD camp.

Clad messes q/ me as well.
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