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1799 Liberty Coin - Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 12/01/2024  3:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mson to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I found this in my parent's coins and I am wondering if it is real or a fake. They are not around for me to ask where it came from.

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 Posted 12/01/2024  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Unfortunately not real.
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 Posted 12/01/2024  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! I agree. It's fake.
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 Posted 12/01/2024  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just another numerous fake out there. Sorry for the loss of your parents!
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 Posted 12/01/2024  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drmenard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen better Fakes on Temu
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Everyone - What are the qualities that make you believe this is fake?

I see a potentially genuine but heavily damaged example. Can you take a photo of the edge? The lettering and design on the edge is usually poorly done or missed entirely on fakes, so that would be a big hint regarding authenticity.
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What are the qualities that make you believe this is fake?


Position of the top berries on the reverse of a 7x6 star obverse coin? Or were there different dies in 1799? I obviously don't know....

OP coin with top berries coming off of the stem in a straight line:
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Compered to a genuine example: berries reaching up coming off of the stem:
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I'm with @jacrispies. I checked PCGS site and the first I looked at (BB-169) has straight berries. There are many dies for 1799.
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Position of the top berries on the reverse of a 7x6 star obverse coin? Or were there different dies in 1799? I obviously don't know....


If you "obviously" don't know, why did you offer a conclusive answer of fake?

There is over a dozen die varieties. If you use a specific device placement for comparison, be sure to state what variety you are choosing. We need to be more careful before we give advice for someone to trash a $1,000 coin. Seen this many times on this forum. Inexperience paired with confidence leads to terrible advice. If you don't know, you don't know. If you know, state why you know. Especially when a lot of money is on the line. I am speaking to everybody. And I need to be more thorough with my responses as well, so I am preaching to myself.

Many counterfeits are made with dies or molds created from a genuine coin, so confirming the match of a die variety does not confirm authenticity.
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Obvious fake.
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Everyone - What are the qualities that make you believe this is fake?


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If you "obviously" don't know, why did you offer a conclusive answer of fake?

Well you asked and I told you why I thought it was fake. Now I know, thanks for the information. I didn't see anybody else telling why they thought it was fake.
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 Posted 12/03/2024  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll be more careful next time before assuming, if it's genuine.

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 Posted 12/03/2024  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So is it fake or genuine? I'm now confused.
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