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1888-O "Hot Lips" Morgan Dollar Grading Opinions Please?

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First time poster all, so take it easy on me if I mess anything up. I'm planning to send this one in for conservation and grading. Trying to figure out insurance, grading service, etc. Based on photograde I'd say mid-AU, but I know these are notorious for weak strikes. I've looked through several pics of Hot Lips' on CoinFacts and I think it holds it's own with higher AU, but I'd love to get opinions from anyone who's seen a fair amount of them. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated!

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Thank you John1. I was hoping to have this in the VAM forum so I got people who've seen a lot of this variety, but I guess we'll see what the Grading forum has to offer!
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Can't argue with AU! If it were mine I'd just go with ANACS for authentication, variety verification, conservation and grading.

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Thanks westernsky! I do the vast majority of my grading through ANACS, however I'm a little concerned about having it conserved there in case I want to cross it over to PCGS at some point down the road. That is if it hasn't been cleaned, I'm open to opinions on that as well. Thanks again!
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I'll say AU.
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I'll say AU-55, perhaps 58.



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Thanks Coinfrog, glad to be here!
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Here's a different angle of the Obverse for anyone else who'd be so kind to weigh in.

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And the Reverse:

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mid-AU

have you tried acetoning it to possibly get some of the black gunk off before sending it out?
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AU-55. Agree with trying some acetone
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Nice AU-55.
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panzaldi and ericgreen I've never used acetone on a coin and don't really want to "learn" on this one. I was planning on doing conservation service through either ANACS or NGC. Does anyone have a preference over the two? Thanks again!
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ANACS did a great job conserving my Canadian silver, but I've only done it once. With ANACS you'd be better off doing multiple coins as they charge $59 flat rate for up to 20. NGC charges 4% of coin's value, minimum $25, but I don't know how to value this variety.
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Thanks for the opinion kbbpll! If the consensus here is correct, it's an AU55, which NGC values at $1300. 4% of that would be $52, plus $40 for grading, plus $10 for their submission fee, plus $25 for Membership, plus $28 for return shipping. That's $155 total, which feels like a lot, so if there's no major difference in the result I'll probably have ANACS conserve it. Thanks again for the advice!
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