Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer FactoryPin — Custom challenge coins for military, police, and organizations. Global shipping, affordable prices, special discounts for service members!  Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.
Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some coins?
Our coin forum is completely free! Register Now!

Greatest Portuguese India Error Known In Existence? Ex. Yashoda Singh & Its Story

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 349Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
colonialjohn's Avatar
United States
1712 Posts
 Posted 12/02/2024  11:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add colonialjohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This story begins back in May, 2022 with Stacks Bowers Collection probably of the greatest collection of Portuguese India Coinage to cross the auction block of this firm let alone anywhere else in the world. Here is the initial offering of the piece https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...t-ngc-ef-45. The first issue with the piece was its improper attribution as the reverse shield does not match any Rupia issue between 1799-1816 but is linked to KM#112 and not to KM#'s 205,219 or 220. This makes the issue c.1726-1752. Some of the very ghosted peripheral legends even match perfectly to the KM#112 portrait as on the obverse right side as we see the bottom of "S" of ESVRP. Be that as it may ... now the error part. Since these issues were struck by a hammer & anvil process and using some basic principles on what can cause weak peripheral legends lets explore this issue more closely. The hammer striking method used for Portuguese India coinage involved manually striking a heated metal flan (blank coin) between two dies with a heavy hammer. This method had several drawbacks:

Inconsistency: Each strike could vary slightly, leading to differences in the final coin's appearance due to inconsistent striking, metal flow issues and alignment problems.

Die Wear: The dies used in hammer striking wore out relatively quickly, resulting in weaker impressions over time.

Manual Preparation: The flans were often manually prepared, which could lead to irregularities and flaws in the coin blanks.

Difficulty in Striking Edges: Striking the edges or periphery of the coin evenly was challenging, resulting in weak peripheral legends.

These factors combined to make the hammer striking method less precise and more prone to producing coins with weak or inconsistent legends and designs which we always see with this coinage in small areas here and there. However, in this case we have FULL 360* obverse/reverse peripheral BLANKED OUT legends! We also have lathe marks (i.e., circular) below the obverse portrait as an attempt to polish the working die to provide a proper linear surface prior to the die details being engraved into the working die. Lathe lines by themselves can even create improper striking of a coin issue in some cases. This is not die wear or metal flow issues but probably an ill prepared working die having a SEVERE convexity (i.e., cone shaped) in its shape thereby creating a sharp central impression but no clear outer motifs. The lathe grinding operation was OBVIOUSLY incomplete/inadequate yielding a non-linear working die surface. UNIQUE in this series and probably the most complex error in Portuguese India Coinage I have encountered! John Lorenzo, Numismatist, United States
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
Hondo Boguss's Avatar
United States
17784 Posts
 Posted 12/02/2024  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting coin, colonialjohn. Thank you for sharing the story and your excellent analysis.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 12/02/2024  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good read for sure.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
161452 Posts
  Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 349Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    





Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2025 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2025 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.2 seconds to rattle this change. Forums